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Look at the casulities just from Okinawa and you can get an idea of what would have happened random thoughts Send a noteboard - 04/03/2010 11:43:00 PM
150K civilians died just taking that small island not to mention over 100K Japanese soldiers and almost 13K US deaths. On the main land things would have been worse. The Japanese military might have been less willing to through their own civilians lives away but that id doubtful. Some estimates actually go as high as 5-6 million civilian deaths with an invasion.

There really is no logic to the argument that we would have killed less people by not using the bomb. We would not have only used planes but we would have brought our ships in close and there would have been massive naval bombardments of their cities. We would have blockaded all their ports and blown up their rail lines so there would have wide spread starvation. The Japanese military typically took upwards of 90% fatalities in defeats and had already lost over 3 million troops. I think the estimates may have been low if anything.

Russia was also going to invade so a part of Japan would have fallen under their control so there was that added bonus. If Truman had refused to use the bomb and 400-10000 American soldiers had died as a consequence he would have been impeached and the democratic party would have dissolved.
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This will be controversial in the extreme, I expect - - 04/03/2010 09:01:16 PM 381 Views
stories from the other side are always an interesting read - 04/03/2010 09:08:40 PM 165 Views
Fascinating is the word. - 04/03/2010 09:09:21 PM 189 Views
I liked it. - 04/03/2010 09:19:16 PM 163 Views
Re: Fascinating is the word. - 04/03/2010 09:53:26 PM 176 Views
An interesting tidbit - 04/03/2010 10:02:32 PM 174 Views
Makes sense; I've always heard invasion casualty estimates were 3 million dead. - 04/03/2010 10:40:11 PM 169 Views
That estimate sounds like what they told us. Not 100% on it though. *NM* - 04/03/2010 10:54:35 PM 55 Views
It seems like a fairly common number, FWIW. - 05/03/2010 01:16:35 AM 139 Views
Look at the casulities just from Okinawa and you can get an idea of what would have happened - 04/03/2010 11:43:00 PM 173 Views
Agreed. - 05/03/2010 01:14:13 AM 164 Views
Three days isn't exactly a long waiting period. - 05/03/2010 01:16:30 AM 151 Views
In war, three days is a lifetime. - 05/03/2010 01:18:49 AM 653 Views
Huh...I'd never heard that, but I'm not shocked - 04/03/2010 11:09:51 PM 161 Views
Very interesting. - 04/03/2010 09:16:42 PM 179 Views
Oh, not so sure about that - 04/03/2010 09:20:16 PM 180 Views
I'm not sure why it should be controversial. It was a great insight and one man's opinion. - 04/03/2010 09:26:19 PM 194 Views
Well - - 04/03/2010 10:04:29 PM 181 Views
An interesting read, didn't seem controversial *NM* - 04/03/2010 09:46:53 PM 51 Views

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