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In war, three days is a lifetime. Joel Send a noteboard - 05/03/2010 01:18:49 AM
Most people don't look at the facts; it's easier to just say, "America bad111" than look at how much worse the fascist governments were (particularly when it's so hard for many to imagine modern Japan as a belligerent military power. ) There's a reason the bomb was necessary; the Japanese people were thoroughly indoctrinated with the belief defeat was IMPOSSIBLE, and the fact is history was on their side. Any short term sacrifices for the sake of the final inevitable victory were acceptable, noble, and they didn't have the first hand experience with the Great War to argue otherwise. The biggest proof of that is that we WERE conducting naval bombardment of their cities, had been for about a year since we won the carrier war and bottled up an IJN that knew it didn't dare leave port or it would get, well, the Battle of Leyte. Halsey raked the 7th fleet down the coast every night, but it didn't induce surrender. Only two things could've done that: A brutal house to house invasion, or the bomb. Everyone agrees the atomic bomb is an incredibly destructive weapon, but if less would've sufficed, why didn't Japan surrender after the FIRST one...?

This last argument of yours I find fairly weak as a result, and I've heard many people argue the same thing - maybe with a little more patience after Hiroshima, the surrender would've come without the Nagasaki one.

Many thousands of them, in this case. But if the Bomb was so horrific it should never have been used, why wasn't three days plenty of time? Does "the city is GONE" become more significant after a certain number of hours? And why aren't we debating this on Skype? *nudge, nudge*
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This will be controversial in the extreme, I expect - - 04/03/2010 09:01:16 PM 378 Views
stories from the other side are always an interesting read - 04/03/2010 09:08:40 PM 164 Views
Fascinating is the word. - 04/03/2010 09:09:21 PM 188 Views
I liked it. - 04/03/2010 09:19:16 PM 163 Views
Re: Fascinating is the word. - 04/03/2010 09:53:26 PM 175 Views
An interesting tidbit - 04/03/2010 10:02:32 PM 173 Views
Makes sense; I've always heard invasion casualty estimates were 3 million dead. - 04/03/2010 10:40:11 PM 169 Views
That estimate sounds like what they told us. Not 100% on it though. *NM* - 04/03/2010 10:54:35 PM 54 Views
It seems like a fairly common number, FWIW. - 05/03/2010 01:16:35 AM 139 Views
Look at the casulities just from Okinawa and you can get an idea of what would have happened - 04/03/2010 11:43:00 PM 172 Views
Agreed. - 05/03/2010 01:14:13 AM 163 Views
Three days isn't exactly a long waiting period. - 05/03/2010 01:16:30 AM 151 Views
In war, three days is a lifetime. - 05/03/2010 01:18:49 AM 653 Views
Huh...I'd never heard that, but I'm not shocked - 04/03/2010 11:09:51 PM 160 Views
Very interesting. - 04/03/2010 09:16:42 PM 178 Views
Oh, not so sure about that - 04/03/2010 09:20:16 PM 179 Views
I'm not sure why it should be controversial. It was a great insight and one man's opinion. - 04/03/2010 09:26:19 PM 194 Views
Well - - 04/03/2010 10:04:29 PM 181 Views
An interesting read, didn't seem controversial *NM* - 04/03/2010 09:46:53 PM 51 Views

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