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Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore - Edit 1

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Fudge: I cannot help wondering whether he is still in denial. I mean, officially he is denying everything and pinning it on Sirius, but he must have noticed that Dumbledore's predictions are coming through?


I have wondered this myself. Honestly, though, I think he's pretty far gone by this point. So he might actually believe the tripe he's spouting out.

Hermione: Ron is quite right. While I appreciate the plot function of having her drop hints and then run off without explanations, it is not in itself a sensible or helpful thing to do -- if she trips and hits her head and forgets whatever it is, the rest are screwed. She should know better after the basilisk incident. And it is not strictly true that she was the only one who could do it. And why didn't she discuss it with Harry beforehand, anyway?


Agree with you and Ron. As for discussing it with Harry, well, she's been around his temper lately and probably knows how he'll react to the mere idea of Rita Skeeter. Who I incidentally notice just now has a slangy name for "mosquito" as her last name. Not a beetle, but still an insect. Anyway, I think if Hermione had given him time to think about it, he would've waffled and possibly not gone through with it. By springing it on him, it probably worked out for the better.

I also cannot help but feel that she should have warned the members of the DA that there would be dire consequences for traitors.


Did she give some sort of hint when they signed? I suppose she did not.

Neville: I like the effect of the break-out on him. Again, because he has been set up as slow to control magic, the change is so powerful. It is especially interesting in view of the earlier theory that the reason he has trouble with magic is that he has developed some block as a result of the trauma of what happened to his parents. If so, the possibility of being able to fight the Lestranges makes even more sense as a catalyst.</quote

He is growing quite rapidly here. I like it. :)

Cho: *sigh* I get it. Still annoying.

Ugh, seriously.

Harry: Are teenage boys really that clueless? I feel I should be protesting an unfair stereotype, but then I realised I don't know whether it is accurate or not.


Hm. I think *all* boys are that clueless. :P

Umbridge: She really does believe Harry is lying, doesn't she? I mean, I keep forgetting that. But the doubleness of the "the message is not sinking in" comment brought it back to me. Not that it makes her much less of an evil bitch, but...


Again, like Fudge, it's kind of hard to tell at this point. It takes a whole lot of ignoring evidence at this point, but apparently she's quite practiced at that.

The teachers: I think this is what I love the most about this book. The conspiratorial side to the teachers. Here exemplified by the showering Harry in points and candy after the interview. It makes me happy when the teachers band together with the students against a common enemy. Especially when that enemy is Umbridge. Especially Trelawny's prediction that Harry would not die. I love it :D (incidentally, her final prediction is also a true one -- with the possible exception for the exact number of children).


It's pretty awesome. They did the same thing to Lockhart in book 2.

Snape: His memories. I like this scene. It gives the first bit of insight into his background. I wonder whether the girl who is laughing as the scrawny boy is trying to mount the broomstick is someone we know ... Lilly has a tendency to pop up before Snape reacts, and that is the last memory before he stops it.

His reactions really point to him wanting Harry to learn. The fact that he gets the most angry from proof that the link to Voldemort is as strong as ever ...


Yeah, as readers we can tell that he wants Harry to learn, but I can see from Harry's point of view where the mistrust/hate/anger/whateveryouwanttocallit comes from. Doesn't stop me wanting him to practice more, though.

Dumbledore: I love how he handles Umbridge's dismissal of Trelawny. It is the trial all over again. He knows how to deal with bureaucrats. Their power lies in adherence to rules, and by knowing the rules better than them, and by seeing the loopholes, he is able to make the situation worse (from Umbridge's point of view), while making it better for his students. Of course, this runs the risk of having her retaliate, but as the alternative is to lie down and die, I love him for it.

I also love (no, I don't think "love" is too strong a word) how he handles the scene in his office. Telling Harry to lie outright and tricking and plotting -- it is beautiful. I like this ability to see the need for cheating. And how he does not hesitate to sacrifice himself in order to keep Harry in school, and how he dismisses the idea of being sent to Azkaban. The complete rejection of following the rules. Lovely, lovely, lovely.


And Harry's shock when he realizes what Dumbledore is telling him to do. It's more direct communication than he's had from Dumbledore in nearly the whole book so far, too. Which admittedly is not much.

Nigellus' comment that Dumbledore has style is also a keeper.


I liked that quite a lot. I couldn't remember if someone had brought it up earlier in the discussion when I read it, but it made me pretty happy.

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