Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM
Do you think that poetry deserves a wider readership?
Well, several others here have made a good point... there's no point in people who aren't interested reading it. But no doubt many people who think they aren't interested just haven't found the right poems yet, so yes, I suppose I do think it deserves a wider readership.
Do bookstores with no designated poetry section but entire shelves full of Ayn Rand and Bibles make you angry?
I can't claim I generally devote too much attention to a bookstore's poetry section... that is, I might check it out and even buy volumes, but it's not the first thing I go looking for, and I wouldn't be too upset if it was missing. I don't generally check out poetry the way I would other books, randomly looking at books that look interesting or authors that sound familiar. With poetry, I just see if by any chance the store has a poet that I like for a decent price.
Why would a bookstore have entire shelves full of Bibles, though? Even in the US (perhaps even especially in the US, where everyone already has one anyway), surely that can't be necessary.
If you had a beautiful little bookstore and could stock it with whatever you wanted, wouldn't you have a section devoted to poetry?
I would. Multilingual poetry, as others said.
Why is poetry important?
Because it allows for the expression of deep ideas and emotions in a simple, appealing way. And because it's one of the oldest forms of literature. And because it's probably the only genre of literature which one can appreciate to some extent even in languages one doesn't speak (that is, assuming the poem is read to you by someone who does speak said language).
Also:
What are your favorite poems?
Gates of Damascus (Flecker), Rime of the Ancient Mariner (Coleridge), No Second Troy (Yeats), lily has a rose (cummings). And many more not coming to mind or that I don't know the title of, see favourite poets.
Who are your favorite poets?
In roughly chronological order: Sappho, Catullus, Hooft, Vondel, Flecker, Poe, Yeats, van Ostaijen, Achterberg, cummings, 't Hooft (not to be confused with the other Hooft).
There are many more that I'm sure I'd like if I read them, but I have yet to really read countless famous poets (Dante, Petrarca, Donne, Keats, Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Verlaine, the list is long).
How did you discover them?
Most of them in school. Poe, Yeats and cummings were probably more on the internet somehow, by looking up references or coming across their names somehow. Flecker was thanks to the quote from his Gates of Damascus that is referenced in the Agatha Christie novel Postern of Fate.
Why should I read them? I am compiling a christmas list, and need to know.
Well, all the Flemish/Dutch ones on the list you probably won't read anyway, or the Antique ones. As for the ones writing in English, though: the former three are at times perhaps a bit pompous or decadent by modern standards, but they are very good at what they do. Flecker writes most of his poems in rhyme, and still makes it sound like he's picked his rhyming words for their meaning and not for the rhyme. Yeats has some great images and lines that have remained in the collective memory (most notably "Things fall apart; the center cannot hold"
. cummings is radically different, with his refusal to use capitals and his use of simple words, but he too does it so phenomenally well.
Poetry:
- 08/11/2010 02:07:39 AM
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Re: Poetry:
- 08/11/2010 04:13:38 AM
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This is why people dislike you.
- 09/11/2010 07:03:17 PM
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Umm...I care?
- 09/11/2010 08:42:55 PM
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Because you should care about being intelligent, rather than appearing to be intelligent.
- 09/11/2010 10:32:04 PM
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Again, why would I care?
- 09/11/2010 10:38:21 PM
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No one can make you care about being decent, or intelligent, or a viable member of the community.
- 09/11/2010 10:41:34 PM
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I think it's rather pointless, to be honest.
- 09/11/2010 10:54:17 PM
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Then why are you even here?
- 09/11/2010 10:59:49 PM
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I don't know. I thought I'd see how long I could string you along.
- 09/11/2010 11:00:37 PM
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You're the one who doesn't care.
- 09/11/2010 11:02:11 PM
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I care only as much as I care. What others think is irrelevant to that.
- 09/11/2010 11:04:15 PM
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But you're still responding to me.
- 09/11/2010 11:05:37 PM
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Because I'm stringing you out until you quit.
- 09/11/2010 11:10:18 PM
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I'm not going to. I find this entertaining.
- 09/11/2010 11:12:27 PM
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I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit.
- 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM
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Come now, who's pretending?
- 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM
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That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM.
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- 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM
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- 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM
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Me, most of the time
- 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. *NM*
- 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM
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Why would I? It's not something I think much about these days. Again, what others think is trivial. *NM*
- 10/11/2010 12:01:03 AM
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Are you 5?
- 09/11/2010 11:14:26 PM
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Nah
- 09/11/2010 11:15:48 PM
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But you were asked about it originally. That was my point.
- 09/11/2010 11:23:25 PM
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And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully.
- 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM
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Why be evasive?
- 10/11/2010 12:16:19 AM
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Because I didn't want to spend an hour pulling out a few dozen books.
- 10/11/2010 12:19:55 AM
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Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM?
- 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM
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I must say, I'm glad you all decided to play up when I was having an evening off.
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- 10/11/2010 12:08:59 PM
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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations.
- 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM
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Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue
- 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM
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I don't disagree, but you can't possibly learn all languages, yet you can read translations of all.
- 09/11/2010 10:56:58 PM
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My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read.
- 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM
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An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity.
- 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM
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Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion.
- 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM
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I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible.
- 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM
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Did they just translate logos as... life-light?
- 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM
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Yes. Yes, they did. *NM*
- 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM
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I can count the poems I enjoy on one hand. Two fingers, in fact.
- 08/11/2010 06:05:22 PM
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I think poetry is largely overrated.
- 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM
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the problem is most good poets are dead and dead people tend to fail at marketing
- 08/11/2010 06:44:18 PM
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I like some poetry, but by no means all.
- 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM
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Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems.
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- 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM
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It is excellent
- 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM
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Re: Nice
- 11/11/2010 01:39:48 AM
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Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night.
- 11/11/2010 11:57:02 AM
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Re: Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night.
- 12/11/2010 04:36:22 AM
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