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Finally! I was waiting for you to reply. Legolas Send a noteboard - 09/02/2011 07:28:53 PM
I read it when I was a kid, in Norwegian. I really need to reread.

Probably, then, yes. Of course, I still haven't read any other Dickens except A Christmas Carol, so you're still way ahead of me. ;)
Well, it is an early novel. It does not surprise me terribly that he may be a little unsubtle. Even later on, subtlety is not his strong point, although I think he may have cut back a little on the hammering -- certainly if he does it directly in Oliver Twist. As I said, I need to reread.

It's not so much direct hammering as it is hammer-like sarcasm. Which, you know, per definition isn't direct, but still it's extremely hard to miss the real meaning.
Dickens is, in my opinion, not very good at writing good guys. They are always bland and kind of washed out.

Is it a mean generalization to say that seems to be true for many Victorian writers, and some earlier ones too? (Yes, Fanny Price, I'm thinking of you.)
Quite possibly. Even the grisly bits take on a certain nostalgic tint in much modern fiction (I haven't read the Faber book yet), in part because of Dickens.

*nods* I haven't read that much modern fiction in the Victorian age, that I can think of, but yeah, seems plausible.
I quite like the artificial happy endings. Precisely because they are often so clearly artificial.

I think you may be overestimating most readers with the "so clearly" comment. Definitely the readers at the time. As for liking them, I wouldn't have minded a happy ending so much if it had involved the interesting characters - but no, those meet horrible endings one and all. Which is fine in itself, but, you know, then don't bore me with a happy ending for the uninteresting characters... oh well.
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