And if the 'good guys' and 'bad guys' do exactly the same things?
Chas Send a noteboard - 09/09/2011 10:30:27 PM
She uses an older and more academic definition of tragedy that really is not in use today outside of academic circles (and has never fit with my ideas anyway) and though it may be my "dominant religion" I can't see the bad guys winning as being the same as the good guys winning...if Sauron had won in middle earth things would have been much different and I would say tragic..
couldn't link directly to the entry but it is the 31st one on the bottom of the page currently.
couldn't link directly to the entry but it is the 31st one on the bottom of the page currently.
How do you differentiate which side is which then? In The Lord of the Rings Sauron's side does things that most readers would identify as being 'bad' and Frodo and co. do things that a reader would identify as good; clear delineation.
She makes a strong argument for her view of how the impartiality of the Iliad enhances the tragedy whereas other war stories, by intentionally prejudicing us to one side or another, can undercut the tragedy because, really, where is the tragedy when the good guys always win? They may have lost some friends, loved ones etc., but that's just sad- not tragic.
Also, thanks for the link. She has some really fascinating posts.
blog by le Guin I disagree with but is interesting...
- 09/09/2011 05:10:55 AM
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And if the 'good guys' and 'bad guys' do exactly the same things?
- 09/09/2011 10:30:27 PM
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Edit your link URL to add #PapaH at the end and it'll go straight there.
- 10/09/2011 12:32:28 PM
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Yeah, I'm basically with Stephen and Camilla. The word "tragic" has been diluted by the media.
- 10/09/2011 01:31:05 PM
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