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I think fionwe has a point - it's not some kind of literature/non-literature divide. Legolas Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 08:37:31 PM
More like a continuum, much like the continuum between inaccessible arthouse movies on the one end and mindless blockbusters on the other. There's a lot of room in the middle. A blanket statement that the WoT characterizations are "wafer thin" is just not correct. There's a lot of caricature characters to be sure, because there's just an insane amount of characters, more than in almost every other written work I know of. The main characters are fleshed out plenty, though. Of course you said "most often", implying that you agree some characters are more fleshed out, and that it's all the caricature Aes Sedai and others that you object to, but then that would just mean that you dislike the Wheel of Time's structure with all the PoVs, characters and subplots in subplots. Because I really don't think it would be feasible to write anything like it while making your hundreds of characters fully fleshed out.

And of course your line about not understanding why some people try to make Jordan into a "master supreme" is just a big strawman, so you can easily attack an extreme claim that fionwe never made, while avoiding his actual, much more valid statements. He's not wrong that the description those people made of the series was rather, shall we say, small-minded and petty. Certainly a far cry from academic, which makes one wonder just what the target audience for this book is. It's not academics, and it's not your run-of-the-mill fantasy fan, those two things are for sure.
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Farah Mendlesohn and Edward James on RJ, Goodkind, and Martin - 07/12/2009 02:48:45 AM 1571 Views
Wow! I was completely wrong about Goodkind. - 07/12/2009 04:36:28 AM 715 Views
Re: Farah Mendlesohn and Edward James on RJ, Goodkind, and Martin - 07/12/2009 04:38:07 AM 722 Views
I suppose it all depends on what the purpose of their book is. - 07/12/2009 10:04:48 AM 652 Views
Overall, a valid assessment. - 07/12/2009 02:07:47 PM 687 Views
Nynaeve doesn't have red hair! She has brown hair! - 07/12/2009 09:29:07 PM 685 Views
She's not a priestess, either. Other than "red-haired priestess" the rest was 100% valid. - 08/12/2009 12:39:07 AM 678 Views
I mentioned her not being a priestess in my earlier post. - 09/12/2009 03:23:12 AM 655 Views
Don't you think that, if that were corrected, the entries would be pretty much valid? - 09/12/2009 09:12:55 PM 642 Views
Of course I do. *NM* - 08/01/2010 07:25:31 PM 297 Views
She's a priestess archetype, though. *NM* - 09/12/2009 09:43:50 PM 276 Views
Why wasn't I informed about the chipmunks? - 07/12/2009 11:56:51 PM 689 Views
But... it's the sweetest scene ever. - 08/12/2009 07:40:51 PM 684 Views
Agree for the most part. When does the book officially come out? - 08/12/2009 07:51:39 PM 790 Views
Book's been out since the summer, in the UK anyways - 09/12/2009 02:33:05 AM 654 Views
So their tone *is* out of place, then? - 09/12/2009 10:52:12 AM 639 Views
Erikson is like Martin? That's ridiculous! - 09/12/2009 01:43:18 AM 869 Views
Influenced isn't the same as 'like'. - 21/12/2009 06:04:53 PM 678 Views
So, you're right because you're right? - 28/12/2009 03:25:33 AM 689 Views
Only because I'm willing to be honest even about things that I enjoy. *NM* - 07/01/2010 06:00:02 PM 265 Views
What rot... - 07/01/2010 09:54:13 PM 699 Views
I think fionwe has a point - it's not some kind of literature/non-literature divide. - 08/01/2010 08:37:31 PM 596 Views
Actually, aSoIaF has one of the more accurate depictions of feudalism in modern fantasy. *NM* - 08/01/2010 07:33:22 PM 275 Views
I agree, but that wasn't the point... - 09/01/2010 03:11:16 AM 638 Views
Nah... - 12/12/2009 08:05:49 AM 723 Views

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