Yes, well, it was a fairly weak defense when you started using it.
Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 31/01/2010 09:23:49 PM
Hasn't aged well, either. 
Actually, since I'm not talking about the popularity of sf/f theater, the number of plays is much more relevant than the importance of theater. I'm not looking for a exceedingly famous play--I want to know if there are any sf/f plays in the very large body of 20th century theater, and if not, then why. Saying "because theater isn't popular any more" is a nonsensical argument.
To address your other point: I suspect your opinion of theater and musical is founded primarily in your location. Large cities that have rather more culture than the typical American locale (I hope you don't take offense at that, since I definitely live in a typical American locale) have very successful theaters. Just because the lowest common denominator flocks to Avatar doesn't mean that the theater is dying. If you think it's in such dire straits, maybe you should write to Broadway, no? I think you could find your millions of theater attendees there.
EDIT: By way of statistical argument, West End theatre had over 13 million attendees in 2007, and Broadway $937 million in ticket sales. It's not cinema, no, but it's certainly still a very strong showing.
EDIT2: Also, theater ticket sales have been increasing over the years. 2007 was the first time West End reached 13 million. Granted, so is the population of the world, so I don't know what attendance is like as a percentage of the human population, but theater definitely isn't subsiding into obscurity. Just the opposite, in fact.
The number of plays written, particularly those written since 1935, is immaterial here, since the medium, much as I love it personally, has declined in terms of public importance.
Actually, since I'm not talking about the popularity of sf/f theater, the number of plays is much more relevant than the importance of theater. I'm not looking for a exceedingly famous play--I want to know if there are any sf/f plays in the very large body of 20th century theater, and if not, then why. Saying "because theater isn't popular any more" is a nonsensical argument.
To address your other point: I suspect your opinion of theater and musical is founded primarily in your location. Large cities that have rather more culture than the typical American locale (I hope you don't take offense at that, since I definitely live in a typical American locale) have very successful theaters. Just because the lowest common denominator flocks to Avatar doesn't mean that the theater is dying. If you think it's in such dire straits, maybe you should write to Broadway, no? I think you could find your millions of theater attendees there.
EDIT: By way of statistical argument, West End theatre had over 13 million attendees in 2007, and Broadway $937 million in ticket sales. It's not cinema, no, but it's certainly still a very strong showing.
EDIT2: Also, theater ticket sales have been increasing over the years. 2007 was the first time West End reached 13 million. Granted, so is the population of the world, so I don't know what attendance is like as a percentage of the human population, but theater definitely isn't subsiding into obscurity. Just the opposite, in fact.
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This message last edited by Ghavrel on 31/01/2010 at 09:27:22 PM
Obviously I have musicals on the brain.
- 31/01/2010 06:36:33 AM
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Musicals are tricky things to do
- 31/01/2010 07:57:44 AM
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If sf/f relies on effects, then it doesn't deserve respect.
- 31/01/2010 08:04:10 AM
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I'm not saying it can be done or relies on effects. I'm just saying it might be tricky
- 31/01/2010 06:40:44 PM
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There is a musical episode of buffy.... 
- 31/01/2010 09:50:22 AM
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- 31/01/2010 09:50:22 AM
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The board ends up being about books, but it's actually titled "Sci-Fi & Fantasy."
- 31/01/2010 07:23:45 PM
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- 31/01/2010 07:23:45 PM
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Yes, but the site is read and find out. Maybe you should go to listen and find out? *NM*
- 31/01/2010 07:28:19 PM
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Tell that to the games board. 
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- 31/01/2010 07:50:53 PM
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- 31/01/2010 07:50:53 PM
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Which is an interesting example.
- 02/02/2010 06:41:08 AM
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Very silly. Less silly, though, when you consider the lack of a Theater/Musicals board. *NM*
- 02/02/2010 07:00:00 AM
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Adam's Hitchhiker's Guide stories were originally radio plays
- 31/01/2010 06:16:42 PM
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Which in turn reminds me of the infamous War of the Worlds radio broadcast with Orson Welles... *NM*
- 31/01/2010 06:36:32 PM
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Nonsense.
- 31/01/2010 07:22:25 PM
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I feel like I'm a broken record, telling you to re-read what I actually said
- 31/01/2010 08:40:17 PM
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Yes, well, it was a fairly weak defense when you started using it.
- 31/01/2010 09:23:49 PM
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I'd have to agree with you - it has become more of a niche.
- 31/01/2010 10:16:02 PM
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I think cinema has outstripped theater more than theater has declined.
- 31/01/2010 10:28:06 PM
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I don't know, I've seen a theater adaptation of The Hobbit, for instance...
- 31/01/2010 10:11:47 PM
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Not quite sure what I was thinking about cinema either. My defense was that it was 3 in the morning.
- 31/01/2010 10:26:03 PM
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I would definitely count Little Shop of Horrors among some sort of sf/f mold.
- 01/02/2010 12:56:40 AM
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Definitely. But again, it's campy and ludicrous.
- 01/02/2010 02:25:00 AM
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Repo! The Genetic Opera, both the play and the film were great. = Rocky-Horror + Bladerunner *NM*
- 02/02/2010 12:41:31 AM
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