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Confusing likability with goodness Beqi Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM
I think that may be the issue. Arya and Robert are likable. And we want the people we like, who seem good, to be good. There are villains like Jaime who are evil and we like him anyway, though more people are trying to make him good now that he is more likable. Cersei and Theon, in my opinion, were never likable so it is easy to put them in the evil category and leave them there. Robert was kind of a weenie evil guy.
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ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:04:24 PM 1551 Views
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Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Macharius - 18/03/2010 06:34:29 PM 902 Views
Exactly. Werthead - 18/03/2010 09:07:56 PM 968 Views
I have never heard anyone defend Cersei. Tom - 18/03/2010 07:04:33 PM 963 Views
Confusing likability with goodness Beqi - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM 963 Views
Arya may not be "good"... ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:15:46 PM 1009 Views
Do you think a child can be evil? *NM* Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:18:06 PM 420 Views
We sometimes hear about kids doing horrible things ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:41:30 PM 847 Views
Is that because they may not understand the consequences of their actions? Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:45:33 PM 931 Views
Most likely, yes. Plus their reasons for doing bad things lack deeper inferior motives. ironclad - 18/03/2010 10:09:25 PM 966 Views
Arya is old enough to understand cause and effect... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:04:31 PM 1061 Views
Soldiers do the same thing. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:23:35 AM 887 Views
Just what I was about to say, yeah *NM* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:55:47 AM 379 Views
Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... Napoleon62 - 19/03/2010 11:24:16 PM 1289 Views
Re: Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... LadyLorraine - 20/03/2010 12:29:55 AM 904 Views
Arya is not a soldier. Soldiers are not individually responsible for the results of war. Cannoli - 20/03/2010 11:22:43 PM 1064 Views
Arya is legitimately the most evil... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 09:45:04 PM 1255 Views
No, she's not A Deathwatch Guard - 18/03/2010 11:45:23 PM 893 Views
Cersei doesn't have true justification Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:47:44 PM 1035 Views
what makes ambition better? LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:30:04 AM 868 Views
*nods* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:58:31 AM 992 Views
what he said! especially about Cersei being seriously mentally ill *NM* imlad - 19/03/2010 04:38:19 AM 347 Views
Re: Arya is legitimately the most evil... Cannoli - 19/03/2010 10:50:56 PM 891 Views
I was looking forward to his response as well. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 11:13:35 PM 1022 Views
Nope Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:23:19 PM 1063 Views
to be accurate, the child was not yet disabled when he was pushed from the tower imlad - 20/03/2010 10:52:42 PM 1000 Views
ah, thank you. it's been a while since I read that bit *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 02:58:10 AM 363 Views
Evil is such a limiting term to use. Werthead - 20/03/2010 12:18:24 PM 876 Views
Try reading the books Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:50:01 PM 1091 Views
just out of curiousity LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 03:01:02 AM 959 Views
Sort of. Cannoli - 22/03/2010 11:37:04 PM 867 Views
I've read them a few times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 01:47:52 PM 966 Views
Just a "few" times? fionwe1987 - 21/03/2010 06:07:14 PM 1007 Views
Only three times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 11:20:12 PM 915 Views
Who is Jon Connington? Napoleon62 - 22/03/2010 01:30:44 AM 1053 Views
Jon Connington- Hand to Aerys. Lost to Hoster, Eddard and Robert. Exiled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:09:59 AM 446 Views
people seem to be forgetting imlad - 21/03/2010 09:11:04 PM 1025 Views
Some of that is BS... fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:18:06 AM 936 Views
Thank you. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:59:38 AM 942 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 23/03/2010 03:58:24 AM 336 Views
ROFLMAO. Most people complain that my values are medieval & out of touch with the modern world! Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:54:58 AM 1305 Views
It really shocks that I'm going to say this. LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:23:28 AM 874 Views
To clarify, "evil" means VERY, VERY BAD. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:12:39 AM 1122 Views
your problem is you seem equate legality with morality imlad - 24/03/2010 04:07:42 AM 859 Views
I was responding to someone ELSE making that error Cannoli - 24/03/2010 03:13:36 PM 1130 Views
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