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Confusing likability with goodness Beqi Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM
I think that may be the issue. Arya and Robert are likable. And we want the people we like, who seem good, to be good. There are villains like Jaime who are evil and we like him anyway, though more people are trying to make him good now that he is more likable. Cersei and Theon, in my opinion, were never likable so it is easy to put them in the evil category and leave them there. Robert was kind of a weenie evil guy.
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ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:04:24 PM 1487 Views
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Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Macharius - 18/03/2010 06:34:29 PM 855 Views
Exactly. Werthead - 18/03/2010 09:07:56 PM 922 Views
I have never heard anyone defend Cersei. Tom - 18/03/2010 07:04:33 PM 912 Views
Confusing likability with goodness Beqi - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM 915 Views
Arya may not be "good"... ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:15:46 PM 966 Views
Do you think a child can be evil? *NM* Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:18:06 PM 397 Views
We sometimes hear about kids doing horrible things ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:41:30 PM 800 Views
Is that because they may not understand the consequences of their actions? Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:45:33 PM 890 Views
Most likely, yes. Plus their reasons for doing bad things lack deeper inferior motives. ironclad - 18/03/2010 10:09:25 PM 903 Views
Arya is old enough to understand cause and effect... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:04:31 PM 1012 Views
Soldiers do the same thing. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:23:35 AM 842 Views
Just what I was about to say, yeah *NM* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:55:47 AM 359 Views
Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... Napoleon62 - 19/03/2010 11:24:16 PM 1239 Views
Re: Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... LadyLorraine - 20/03/2010 12:29:55 AM 858 Views
Arya is not a soldier. Soldiers are not individually responsible for the results of war. Cannoli - 20/03/2010 11:22:43 PM 1016 Views
Arya is legitimately the most evil... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 09:45:04 PM 1202 Views
No, she's not A Deathwatch Guard - 18/03/2010 11:45:23 PM 850 Views
Cersei doesn't have true justification Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:47:44 PM 989 Views
what makes ambition better? LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:30:04 AM 823 Views
*nods* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:58:31 AM 951 Views
what he said! especially about Cersei being seriously mentally ill *NM* imlad - 19/03/2010 04:38:19 AM 327 Views
Re: Arya is legitimately the most evil... Cannoli - 19/03/2010 10:50:56 PM 842 Views
I was looking forward to his response as well. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 11:13:35 PM 977 Views
Nope Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:23:19 PM 1017 Views
to be accurate, the child was not yet disabled when he was pushed from the tower imlad - 20/03/2010 10:52:42 PM 955 Views
ah, thank you. it's been a while since I read that bit *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 02:58:10 AM 346 Views
Evil is such a limiting term to use. Werthead - 20/03/2010 12:18:24 PM 829 Views
Try reading the books Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:50:01 PM 1038 Views
just out of curiousity LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 03:01:02 AM 911 Views
Sort of. Cannoli - 22/03/2010 11:37:04 PM 822 Views
I've read them a few times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 01:47:52 PM 912 Views
Just a "few" times? fionwe1987 - 21/03/2010 06:07:14 PM 957 Views
Only three times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 11:20:12 PM 864 Views
Who is Jon Connington? Napoleon62 - 22/03/2010 01:30:44 AM 1008 Views
Jon Connington- Hand to Aerys. Lost to Hoster, Eddard and Robert. Exiled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:09:59 AM 423 Views
people seem to be forgetting imlad - 21/03/2010 09:11:04 PM 972 Views
Some of that is BS... fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:18:06 AM 890 Views
Thank you. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:59:38 AM 892 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 23/03/2010 03:58:24 AM 314 Views
ROFLMAO. Most people complain that my values are medieval & out of touch with the modern world! Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:54:58 AM 1252 Views
It really shocks that I'm going to say this. LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:23:28 AM 826 Views
To clarify, "evil" means VERY, VERY BAD. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:12:39 AM 1075 Views
your problem is you seem equate legality with morality imlad - 24/03/2010 04:07:42 AM 813 Views
I was responding to someone ELSE making that error Cannoli - 24/03/2010 03:13:36 PM 1086 Views
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