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Re: How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? snoopcester Send a noteboard - 13/05/2010 10:59:35 PM

And the LibDems getting a generous share of Cabinet seats (although I have to wonder where you got your total of 12 from, I've seen much larger numbers for the amount of people in the Cabinet?) does not somehow erase the imbalance in the seats. After all, if they had as many seats as their share of the vote would earn them under any kind of somewhat proportional representation, they'd be in a position to get more Cabinet seats still while not having to call it generous or somehow feel in debt to Cameron's magnanimity. And you wouldn't have to get angry about it.


There are 23, plus an additional 5 Tories who will attend.
So the Lib Dems have around 21% of the actual cabinet posts (for 23% of the vote) and not even very good ones (Scotland Secretary and Deputy Prime Minister are nothing jobs with flashy titles) - it has already emerged that Cable doesn't have the power to actually head some committees he was supposed to and Osborne will instead.
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Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. Nebhead - 07/05/2010 09:29:03 AM 1884 Views
Re: Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. Liam - 07/05/2010 09:45:23 AM 1348 Views
So what would you move to? Roland00 - 07/05/2010 09:53:51 AM 1151 Views
I imagine if the UK changes it will move to Proportional Representation Mark - 07/05/2010 10:04:38 AM 1294 Views
Re: So what would you move to? p hart - 07/05/2010 02:55:32 PM 1253 Views
God I hate the British system Camilla - 07/05/2010 10:24:35 AM 1283 Views
It's an excellent morning. Conservatives are at 301 right now. *NM* Tom - 07/05/2010 01:57:52 PM 654 Views
Are you counting the Speaker? *NM* Camilla - 07/05/2010 01:59:37 PM 696 Views
Indeed snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:22:37 PM 1300 Views
I love how they're calling that option "The Coalition of the Losers". Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:27:56 PM 1246 Views
They are? Where? snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:38:01 PM 1343 Views
On the lovely BBC. Paxman, Robinson, Dimbleby et al. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:52:01 PM 1255 Views
Ah, we have it on but with the sound turned down - the subtitlers must be skipping that phrase snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:13:57 PM 1168 Views
The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results. Legolas - 07/05/2010 03:45:58 PM 1252 Views
Re: The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:52:19 PM 1278 Views
That is true snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:53:51 PM 1250 Views
Re: That is true p hart - 07/05/2010 03:54:51 PM 1274 Views
I'm sure it would be a setup for new elections in a few months if they did. *NM* Tom - 07/05/2010 02:40:49 PM 670 Views
I suspect we'll get one of those anyway. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:52:32 PM 1223 Views
What is the general consensus on who would win or lose from new elections? Tom - 07/05/2010 02:57:04 PM 1370 Views
I've not heard any comment on this yet. I might have missed some. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:58:00 PM 1245 Views
Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:21:23 PM 1376 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though p hart - 07/05/2010 03:29:37 PM 1349 Views
King William IV indeed. Liam - 07/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 1364 Views
Re: King William IV indeed. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:40:41 PM 1181 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:04:03 PM 1281 Views
I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:09:51 PM 1248 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn p hart - 07/05/2010 04:24:56 PM 1150 Views
Yes. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:26:50 PM 1016 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:28:45 PM 1229 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn p hart - 07/05/2010 04:34:41 PM 1200 Views
I'm sure he is snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:25:20 PM 1284 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:27:44 PM 1340 Views
Re: Heh. snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:43:18 PM 1325 Views
His talking about "Portillo moments" was one of the best parts of the BBC's election broadcast. *NM* Legolas - 07/05/2010 08:14:11 PM 717 Views
Re: I'm sure he is p hart - 07/05/2010 04:40:07 PM 1256 Views
Cameron might be in trouble anyway. Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:25:14 PM 1360 Views
If they got PR as part of the deal it would be worth it Mark - 07/05/2010 02:42:36 PM 1373 Views
Possibly. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:53:28 PM 1386 Views
Re: Possibly. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:00:55 PM 1177 Views
I didn't mean from that point of view. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 03:05:05 PM 1267 Views
Re: I didn't mean from that point of view. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:18:57 PM 1251 Views
Short term pain for long term gain Mark - 07/05/2010 03:02:51 PM 1336 Views
Sylvia Hermon the independent unionist would probably support them as well Mark - 07/05/2010 02:44:35 PM 1278 Views
Re: Indeed p hart - 07/05/2010 03:45:00 PM 1277 Views
Re: Indeed snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:59:41 PM 1402 Views
Well I'm fairly sure some Shinners have attended Tory conferences in the past Mark - 07/05/2010 04:05:56 PM 1203 Views
Here's what i would do to sink the Tories p hart - 07/05/2010 04:06:10 PM 1241 Views
that does sound strange AgentOrange - 07/05/2010 10:57:10 AM 1215 Views
The breakdown is pretty wack snoopcester - 07/05/2010 11:07:20 AM 1197 Views
Tell me about it. Liam - 07/05/2010 11:14:44 AM 1228 Views
I liked that as well snoopcester - 07/05/2010 11:46:42 AM 1303 Views
I'm in the Cities of London and Westminster constituency. Zeeb - 07/05/2010 11:56:04 AM 1244 Views
Not that I'd ever try to one-up you. Liam - 07/05/2010 12:54:47 PM 1315 Views
Zeeb - 07/05/2010 01:44:03 PM 1165 Views
Re: The breakdown is pretty wack p hart - 07/05/2010 03:23:32 PM 1225 Views
Same here snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:47:51 PM 1179 Views
Re: Same here p hart - 07/05/2010 03:56:46 PM 1325 Views
A simple change is all Druid - 07/05/2010 01:16:16 PM 1288 Views
That's not a simple change. THIS is a simple change: Tom - 07/05/2010 01:59:09 PM 1248 Views
Not that simple snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:45:00 PM 1203 Views
Because my school was a polling station we used to get the day off every polling day Mark - 07/05/2010 02:51:18 PM 1367 Views
Show off snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:53:16 PM 1195 Views
Re: Not that simple p hart - 07/05/2010 03:04:57 PM 1362 Views
Re: Not that simple Mark - 07/05/2010 03:14:46 PM 1364 Views
Re: Not that simple p hart - 07/05/2010 03:20:55 PM 1061 Views
PR is hardly too difficult to implement and is much more democratic Mark - 07/05/2010 02:48:01 PM 1216 Views
I hate the list system. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:55:39 PM 1297 Views
There are many different versions Mark - 07/05/2010 03:10:38 PM 1207 Views
It's that bad i registered to moan. p hart - 07/05/2010 02:53:37 PM 1266 Views
What's amazing is that the exit polls are actually looking astonishingly correct, now. Huh. *NM* Legolas - 07/05/2010 03:35:12 PM 624 Views
As soon as i turned on the TV, i was being told the Exit polls must be wrong p hart - 07/05/2010 03:47:15 PM 1220 Views
Conservatives win and the stock market plummets. j/k Burr - 07/05/2010 03:40:11 PM 1179 Views
Oh, and the other interesting thing will be seeing whether the Conservatives offer.... Rebekah - 07/05/2010 03:57:52 PM 1347 Views
I like John Major Liam - 07/05/2010 04:01:03 PM 1210 Views
There's only one the LibDems will be interested in though. Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:30:55 PM 1325 Views
But p hart - 07/05/2010 08:21:11 PM 1251 Views
Isn't that the very definition of a coalition? Legolas - 07/05/2010 08:16:05 PM 1322 Views
Until you bring Lady Thatcher back, all of your elections are just pick-the-least-offensive anyway. *NM* LiterateDog - 07/05/2010 04:08:32 PM 628 Views
Well her son is good at starting coups, so maybe he might be hired for her return. *NM* p hart - 07/05/2010 04:28:52 PM 667 Views
Whatever it takes. *NM* LiterateDog - 07/05/2010 04:31:13 PM 606 Views
Please no, the milk stealer is still used to frighten children in Scotland p hart - 07/05/2010 04:47:26 PM 1195 Views
OK here is the map of England by constituency, blue Tory, red NUlab p hart - 07/05/2010 05:00:20 PM 1248 Views
So I'm just one of those upstart colonists....explain to me what is going on.... Jeordam - 07/05/2010 05:26:59 PM 1208 Views
Basically... Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:43:10 PM 1241 Views
And things are changing already Werthead - 08/05/2010 04:08:47 PM 1324 Views
To be fair, I don't know it makes for much of a change snoopcester - 08/05/2010 04:20:26 PM 1333 Views
I thought they weren't allowed to do that if Brown isn't Prime Minister? Rebekah - 08/05/2010 04:52:39 PM 1278 Views
The latter, I'd say. Legolas - 08/05/2010 05:43:23 PM 1567 Views
Brown is PM at the moment p hart - 08/05/2010 06:16:48 PM 1216 Views
They certainly can. Werthead - 09/05/2010 04:37:46 PM 1316 Views
God, our system is fucked up *NM* Monkey - 07/05/2010 06:25:04 PM 738 Views
If i were the tories p hart - 07/05/2010 11:28:43 PM 1304 Views
That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh? Legolas - 07/05/2010 11:59:58 PM 1558 Views
Re: That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh? p hart - 08/05/2010 06:11:38 PM 1310 Views
Sounds like the pressure is on for Cameron snoopcester - 08/05/2010 02:01:49 PM 1343 Views
Hmmm Balwer - 13/05/2010 12:08:04 PM 1596 Views
Completely uncalled for! Rebekah - 13/05/2010 01:12:05 PM 1403 Views
How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? Legolas - 13/05/2010 09:52:24 PM 1676 Views
Re: How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? snoopcester - 13/05/2010 10:59:35 PM 1297 Views
Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 Balwer - 14/05/2010 09:53:49 AM 1267 Views
Re: Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 snoopcester - 14/05/2010 10:45:35 AM 1168 Views
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