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I wish ... Nate Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 06:57:30 PM
Kerry got crap for saying he voted for the bill before he voted against it and for saying if you wanted to know what kind of leader he would be ask the people he served with knowing that many of them opposed him.

I hate to speak out against your faith but it was Fox was hardly alone in not being critical of the war before it began. They did have a number of anchors who supported finishing and who supported the surge when those on the left were saying we should cut and run and screaming that the surge was never work. Funny how much criticism Fox gets for right about and how much chest thumping the left continues to do about being wrong.

Indeed, as I noted above, Kerry got crap for saying he voted for the bill before he voted against it, because he only changed his vote when Republicans started tacking on a whole bunch of pork that didn't help the troops at all. No one wanted to hear it in '04, least of all Faux, so I don't know why they suddenly care now. Apart from partisan bias, of course.


... that people would quit with the mock-names, like "Faux News". It always, 100% of the time, immediately gives me the sense that the writer has no credibility. If you want to make a point, or write persuasively for one side or another of a given debate, please, for the love of god, just call them Fox News. That's their name. And no, as a news writer myself, I don't like how they do things either.
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US Debt Hits $13T - But Spending Spree in DC Continues..... trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 05:09:48 PM 1198 Views
Look who finally remembered they oppose federal deficits. Joel - 26/05/2010 05:26:30 PM 792 Views
Silly Joel.....please find the posts where I supported GWB's deficit spending. trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 05:35:13 PM 854 Views
hmmm Aisha - 26/05/2010 05:40:49 PM 790 Views
That's different; spending trillions on the Iraq war is necessary national defense, just ask Fox. Joel - 26/05/2010 05:46:49 PM 998 Views
0.7 Trillion doesn't usually qualify as 'Trillions' Isaac - 26/05/2010 06:16:15 PM 952 Views
I'm not willing to try parsing how much DoD spending was and wasn't Iraq just now. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:27:50 PM 912 Views
You can knock off the "Faux News" stuff, makes you sound like you've been hanging at Daily Kos Isaac - 26/05/2010 07:06:16 PM 964 Views
umm ok. Aisha - 26/05/2010 07:26:02 PM 1019 Views
A Fox News person was involved in writing the article so it sent him into a tissy fit random thoughts - 26/05/2010 10:56:35 PM 758 Views
Well, they annoyed the hell out of me by "accusing" Dems of something they supported for 5 years. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:30:08 PM 1010 Views
ok now you are just making stuff up random thoughts - 27/05/2010 08:11:39 PM 1237 Views
This would sound better if you didn't say yourself the support was mostly fake Isaac - 28/05/2010 01:05:44 PM 996 Views
I thought overthrowing Saddam was fine.....and it worked out very well. trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 06:37:31 PM 759 Views
I'll take what comfort I can from this. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:45:53 PM 850 Views
"They" plural. Joel - 26/05/2010 05:45:48 PM 1027 Views
you are so full of crap random thoughts - 26/05/2010 05:59:47 PM 831 Views
Oh, they weren't silent; they were quite vocal in their endorsement of the Iraq war. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:03:51 PM 1061 Views
more ranting doesn't support your argument random thoughts - 26/05/2010 06:17:22 PM 970 Views
I'll respond to the coherent part of that. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:30:07 PM 998 Views
I wish ... Nate - 26/05/2010 06:57:30 PM 999 Views
Is the NYT any better pieces slandering McCain and his wife before an election? random thoughts - 26/05/2010 07:16:58 PM 851 Views
I don't know those articles specifically. Nate - 26/05/2010 08:27:44 PM 909 Views
So my repeated use of "M$" in moondogs thread only makes things worse? Joel - 27/05/2010 03:35:06 PM 888 Views
These days I typically just say, "Fox. " Joel - 27/05/2010 03:48:40 PM 993 Views
You mean you will repsond to part that you like and ignore the part you don't because of a typo random thoughts - 26/05/2010 07:18:03 PM 902 Views
Actually, I think it was a pretty thorough response. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:57:55 PM 996 Views
then let me make is simpler random thoughts - 27/05/2010 07:23:19 PM 978 Views
I'll give Joel a little hand here... Legolas - 26/05/2010 09:14:27 PM 1012 Views
commas are so over rated random thoughts - 26/05/2010 10:50:57 PM 790 Views
The second paragraph is very hard to follow unless you already have an idea what he's going to say. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:43:09 PM 941 Views
yes the good republicans spent a lot of money so democrats should spend even more argument random thoughts - 26/05/2010 05:52:57 PM 756 Views
Well, I'll certainly agree that if it's bad, it's bad whoever's doing it. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:00:20 PM 954 Views
you are attacking Fox News becuase you object to opposing views being expressed random thoughts - 26/05/2010 06:27:29 PM 953 Views
Not at all; I just expect a little consistency. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:40:07 PM 996 Views
then why not show some and admit that all the news agency were backing the war random thoughts - 26/05/2010 07:10:57 PM 983 Views
Yes, they were; most of them stopped: One of them didn't. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:08:34 PM 941 Views
so the other media outlets get a pass because the supported losing a war they supported starting? random thoughts - 27/05/2010 06:39:21 PM 804 Views
We were heading in the wrong direction already, but Obama/Dems put the pedal to the floor... trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 06:41:48 PM 757 Views
I don't mean to defend all of the spending that Obama and Congress have done since he's in power... Legolas - 26/05/2010 09:29:38 PM 941 Views
They did push the pedal further down even if they didn't start it random thoughts - 26/05/2010 10:46:38 PM 1031 Views
Fair enough, I don't disagree with any of that. Legolas - 26/05/2010 10:53:32 PM 851 Views
I find this image to describe the deficits pretty useful Roland00 - 27/05/2010 01:56:29 AM 774 Views
Here is the problem with this kind of reporting... Dannymac - 27/05/2010 07:12:34 AM 898 Views
Correct Roland00 - 27/05/2010 02:11:47 PM 760 Views
The problem with that kind of logic is it is wrong random thoughts - 27/05/2010 02:19:37 PM 792 Views
Yes, that would be wrong. Dannymac - 27/05/2010 03:35:30 PM 817 Views
Based on Obama's budget, he will add more to the debt over the next 10 years..... trzaska2000 - 27/05/2010 04:10:45 PM 719 Views
Increasing the debt is a problem, yes. Dannymac - 27/05/2010 07:55:04 PM 1167 Views
At least we agree that you are wrong because that is what you said random thoughts - 27/05/2010 06:50:43 PM 765 Views
And where does the rest of the money come from? Dannymac - 27/05/2010 08:12:31 PM 900 Views
No, that's for the entire Department of Defense. Legolas - 27/05/2010 08:25:28 PM 790 Views
using those numbers the war appears to be about half a drop in the bucket *NM* random thoughts - 27/05/2010 08:37:31 PM 411 Views
I wouldn't call it a drop in the bucket... Legolas - 27/05/2010 09:03:43 PM 1018 Views
yeah I was just being a smart ass random thoughts - 27/05/2010 11:09:37 PM 1011 Views
Re: And where does the rest of the money come from? random thoughts - 27/05/2010 10:58:59 PM 919 Views
I interpreted it as saying... Legolas - 27/05/2010 02:22:13 PM 1279 Views
Hmmm... Dannymac - 27/05/2010 03:41:15 PM 829 Views
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