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Never look a gift horse in the mouth snoopcester Send a noteboard - 11/06/2010 04:29:16 PM
Beward of Greeks bearing gifts.

While sayings are fun, they don't mean much.

If you must speak, do so with the understanding uninformed opinions on emotional subjects often provoke annoyance. I would like it noted in passing, however, that there's a difference between saying a POST is stupid and saying a POSTER is. :whistle:


I think bringing child sex trafficking into a post about an oil leak is a sign of stupidity. The first reply was stupid, the follow up showed stupidity by the poster.

In fact, I've still not seen it explained what was stupid in Foxhead's post, just unrelated, angry ranting and insulting.

Was it really being "controlled" by more than one person? I sincerely doubt BP simply gave Transocean a free hand in much of anything. They paid a pretty penny for that lease, after all, and the sheer volume of the spill shows how rich it was. Not to mention that whatever services they may be purchasing from Transocean they almost certainly expect to be performed according to instructions. "Here's a large sum of money; do what you please on our oil lease--while our employees watch mutely.... " <img class=' />2' /> As to the equipment itself, the main thing we know is that had never had this problem before now, and that it had already been cited several times by the Coast Guard for leaks in the weeks leading up to the explosion (one theory as to why the blowout preventer failed is that it lacked hydraulic pressure due to a leak of its own. )


BP were in a joint operation of which they were the majority (I think 65% is quoted).
Tansocean are an offshore drilling contractor - BP were using them for that reason... they have experience and knowledge BP wanted.
The thing is at the moment this is a mess with a lot of people involved in it - until it has been properly investigated it isn't possible to know

Actually, what went wrong, in terms of assigning damages, is only relevant in so far as it bears on who's responsible. And BP has been rather half hearted in its own attempts to shift blame to contractors and regulators, which speaks volumes, though I do give them credit for at least trying. This is BPs baby and they'll have to rock it, like it or not.


Well of course, that is rather the point in finding out what went wrong in terms of blame - was it something BP controlled or was it controlled by something else? (most obviously Transocean or Haliburton messing up with something they were responsible for).
Given the amount of abuse coming at BP from the Obama downwards, it doesn't matter right now who is actually responsible - they just need to keep their head down and ride it out because if it is another company who messed up then pointing it out just means BP get beaten more for trying to finger point. Much better to wait it out and let a proper investigation sort it out than get caught up anymore in the blood hungry mob than they have to.

Dear heaven, was this REALLY only the second post made on the CMB since mine? How incredibly depressing.... :(


'tis slow;)
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