Active Users:244 Time:06/05/2024 10:22:38 PM
Me neither, obviously. Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/07/2010 04:33:57 PM
In fact he's shored up the defence to some degree by bringing in another centre back to play right back, though obviously no Samuel was always going to hurt. But looking at both the team and how it played and I don't think they had a real midfield - the team evolved over the course of the World Cup into a bit of a shambles. There was just nobody (and I really mean nobody) who I could see who was actually meant to be joining the defence (limited though it was) to the attack - Messi tried his best to do it but it meant he basically took himself out of the game by coming deep the whole time to get the ball.

Yeah, true. It almost goes without saying, but perhaps a lot of people had forgotten it nevertheless: even a player of Messi's stellar calibre can only really shine when he's got a solid team like Barça's around him. And Argentina was collectively quite average, really. More talented than all but a handful of other teams on the World Cup, sure, even if you ignore Messi, but many less talented teams compensated for that with good tactics and group spirit, and those didn't really seem there for Argentina...
Maradona completely messed up his team, it just had no balance - he needed at least one proper midfielder in there along with Mascherano to get the ball forwards to the attackers.

I don't know to what extent it was his fault exactly, but yeah, a good trainer could've done more with that team, one would imagine.
I'm still not a huge fan of the German defence though, Lahm aside it looks to slow and cumbersome. Loew though has clearly got his head screwed on when it comes to tactics and can go some way to covering for it without ruining his own team.

The mystery of the German defense is that while Friedrich and Mertesacker really aren't that good, they somehow tend to get the job done. Lahm is by far my favourite player on the German team (with the possible exception of Ozil), and could play for pretty much any country - one of those rare wing defenders whose defensive performance doesn't really suffer from his offensive impulses. And you have to say Podolski is a gifted defender and absolutely crucial for Germany - he's been defending better than attacking, this World Cup, one might almost say. Khedira, too. Rarely anything too spectacular from him, but he's there in the defense and he's there in the build-up.

So yeah, collective defending doing the job for Germany, I guess. Whether that will be enough against Spain if they don't get lucky with an early goal... I somewhat doubt it.
Reply to message
Unbe-fucking-lievable *NM* - 03/07/2010 04:50:51 PM 581 Views
Lessons in how to take advantage of an early lead, again. - 03/07/2010 04:54:00 PM 598 Views
I know i picked germany for the world cup... - 03/07/2010 04:55:06 PM 697 Views
Australia's 4-0 loss doesn't look so bad now *NM* - 03/07/2010 04:56:35 PM 298 Views
Germany...well done! - 03/07/2010 05:03:47 PM 586 Views
Pretty good - the Argentine defense was shown up as I'd thought it would be at some point - 03/07/2010 05:06:52 PM 581 Views
Yeah, you were proven quite right... - 03/07/2010 09:48:45 PM 622 Views
Re: Yeah, you were proven quite right... - 04/07/2010 10:02:38 AM 575 Views
I'd disagree with Messi being a disappointment this World Cup. - 05/07/2010 03:23:15 PM 603 Views
I didn't think it would be that bad - 05/07/2010 11:49:55 AM 602 Views
Me neither, obviously. - 05/07/2010 04:33:57 PM 556 Views
Re: Me neither, obviously. - 05/07/2010 04:57:59 PM 716 Views
I heard Maradona is plotting revenge - 03/07/2010 05:28:06 PM 620 Views
Good thing I am nowhere near Berlin *NM* - 05/07/2010 10:27:18 AM 323 Views
FUHRER AND FATHERLAND! - 03/07/2010 06:07:38 PM 746 Views
Told you the argentinian defense was shoddy. - 03/07/2010 06:11:51 PM 569 Views
What are you talking about? Paul the octopus predicted this. That makes it PROBABLE. - 03/07/2010 06:31:22 PM 529 Views
But it took him forever this time - 04/07/2010 10:42:06 AM 547 Views
Deutschland über alles! - 03/07/2010 07:25:55 PM 509 Views
Because it needs to be posted here - 03/07/2010 10:32:24 PM 747 Views
hehe *NM* - 03/07/2010 11:01:03 PM 266 Views
Yeah, most impressive! - 04/07/2010 06:39:39 AM 820 Views
- 04/07/2010 10:03:52 AM 546 Views
I believe the proper hyphenation is "Un-fucking-believable" - 06/07/2010 03:11:44 AM 518 Views
Nope, I'm with Jens on that one... - 07/07/2010 08:33:33 PM 549 Views

Reply to Message