my favorite counter to "that's the way we've always done it..."
damookster Send a noteboard - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM
Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage,
hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it. Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the other monkeys with cold water. After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.
Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.
Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, and then the fifth.
Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is
attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no
idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why
they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.
After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana.
Why not?
Because as far as they know that's the way it's always been
done around here.
hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it. Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the other monkeys with cold water. After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.
Now, put away the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.
Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm! Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, and then the fifth.
Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is
attacked. Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no
idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why
they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.
After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana.
Why not?
Because as far as they know that's the way it's always been
done around here.
Mook
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Arguments that detract from someone's position
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Being called a "Nazi"
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Now I'm curious, what kinds of statements gets people to call you a nazi? *NM*
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You know... "I like the smell of Jews burning in the morning. It smells like... genocide." *NM*
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It used to be my signature!
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It's an offensive and potentially hurtful statement.
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Did you read her actual message body?
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I'm just explaining the responses, not attributing these thoughts/feelings to Belals girl. *NM*
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I understand
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Re: Now I'm curious, what kinds of statements gets people to call you a nazi?
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Those both piss me off.
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Not sure this fits the post, but as I'm currently angry about it, I'm sharing.
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It's important to adjust your message format and phrasing to your audience
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Disagreeing with me. That really makes me not want to honestly consider their opinion. *NM*
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I hate it when people...
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my favorite counter to "that's the way we've always done it..."
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I like that story. Have you ever managed to get that entire story out without being interrupted? *NM*
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I have a lot but I particularly get pissed when I see fat kids.
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Yes, I know what you mean. It's like parents who say: Look at how my child talks to me!
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No.
08/08/2010 05:04:09 PM
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of course but i'm sure that group of families isn't what Helene is referring to
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Parents who have very difficult children won't appeal to me about their children's behavior. *NM*
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Why not?, if you're friends. *NM*
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Because people who do their best know why their kids are behaving the way they are behaving
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I don't know; it really wasn't clear to me from what you said. *NM*
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I'm describing behavior, poor parenting, that only certain people display, namely crap parents.
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I agree. The parents with actual screwed up kids know they are screwed up.
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Mine.
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my boyfriend hates when I use this one against him
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it's such an inane statement that it really can only be met with physical violence. *NM*
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