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SOMEONE is going to rule. Joel Send a noteboard - 30/01/2011 02:16:43 AM
They're saying "We don't want YOU to rule, Mr Mubarak".

Sure, things have gotten out of hand, but that doesn't make their fears and frustrations any less valid.

No, but it makes Mubaraks emergency powers, powers created precisely because of Egypts widespread domestic terrorism, a lot MORE valid. Sure, their fears and frustrations are valid; what are the rioters doing to alleviate them? They're paving the way for a sectarian government guided by the principles of a man who listed individual liberty chief among his criticisms of the West; what does anyone expect that to improve?

Worse, there's strong reason to believe the rioters are aware of and accept that. Things haven't just "gotten out of hand". This isn't the Salt March or the March on Washington. It's multiple, deliberate, pitched battles with the military and police, with a lot of people have been caught in the crossfire. That Mubarak's an awful leader doesn't justify that, but that does suggest Egypt could and likely will do worse than Mubarak. Give me some reason to think otherwise and I might endorse his overthrow, but right now the BEST I can offer is no endorsement for anyone.

It doesn't seem repression, political prisons, torture and murder will end whatever happens to Mubarak, so I see no reason to pick sides.
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If anyone's looking for up-to-date info on what's going on in Egypt - 28/01/2011 08:08:31 PM 763 Views
I've been following it on the BBC website. - 28/01/2011 09:49:47 PM 498 Views
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He mainly seems to bring close diplomatic ties to the US and alternatives to the Muslim Brotherhood - 29/01/2011 12:59:48 AM 632 Views
You might want to do a quick check on the political situation in Egypt at this time. - 29/01/2011 11:37:02 AM 552 Views
I've done a quick one; it makes me question whether government by the protesters would be better. - 29/01/2011 11:44:10 PM 517 Views
They're not saying "We want to rule". - 30/01/2011 01:26:03 AM 520 Views
SOMEONE is going to rule. - 30/01/2011 02:16:43 AM 551 Views
It's a fairly simple matter, really. - 29/01/2011 11:52:41 AM 539 Views
The trouble with free elections is: They're free. - 29/01/2011 11:53:22 PM 461 Views
A vote for dictatorship and against democracy it is. Just checking. - 30/01/2011 12:08:41 AM 490 Views
I haven't cast a vote. - 30/01/2011 02:02:11 AM 512 Views
Not one that counts no, but still. - 30/01/2011 01:11:59 PM 956 Views
None of any kind. - 31/01/2011 12:10:07 AM 515 Views
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Re: Since I'm clearly a glutton for punishment... - 04/02/2011 11:38:10 PM 633 Views
You're not seriously expecting them to do their revolution American Revolution-style, are you? - 29/01/2011 11:28:31 AM 516 Views
British Colonialism wasn't a walk in the park - 30/01/2011 03:53:58 AM 472 Views
Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia. - 30/01/2011 10:42:53 AM 460 Views
Re: Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia. - 30/01/2011 02:32:52 PM 513 Views
You can't be serious. - 30/01/2011 03:07:18 PM 455 Views
Pretty serious - 30/01/2011 04:52:24 PM 611 Views
Re: Pretty serious - 30/01/2011 05:11:50 PM 493 Views
This is ridicolous - 30/01/2011 05:31:31 PM 568 Views
you forget that it was supposdely thier own citizens the British were abusing. - 31/01/2011 12:39:33 AM 560 Views
Sure, but organized into hostile armies. A rather different matter, that. *NM* - 31/01/2011 09:46:25 PM 200 Views
true - 31/01/2011 10:04:38 PM 472 Views
Your comparison is very odd - 30/01/2011 04:38:16 PM 546 Views
Why? - 30/01/2011 05:02:47 PM 502 Views
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I never called anyone an animal. - 30/01/2011 04:50:12 AM 593 Views
Yikes indeed - 29/01/2011 03:57:25 AM 530 Views
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