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You're the one who dragged it to that Isaac Send a noteboard - 23/08/2011 08:10:03 PM
Don't complain things turn partisan when you habitually turn every conversation into proclamations about how right your view of the world is and people object to your assertions. Remember, this thread fundamentally was about an article written by someone who thinks aliens will exterminate us for not being green enough, which I called hogwash, in our various back and forths nothing you've said contradicted that and boil down entirely to episode 6110 of "Joel Rants" which are always about how screwed up the system is while making snide remarks at those who don't agree the system is as screwed up as you think or necessarily in the way you think. You're the one who made this political. In point of fact, I'm pretty sure I've never started a political argument on this site, certainly it's a rarity, alternatively you do it all the time. So if we've gotten to that point again it is not of my doing.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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If ever there was a reason to cut greenhouse gas emissions Camilla - 19/08/2011 10:14:00 AM 1104 Views
I've seen Start Trek, I know the real threat is you killing whales. snoopcester - 19/08/2011 10:34:08 AM 756 Views
I know Camilla - 19/08/2011 10:36:22 AM 692 Views
You make a fair point snoopcester - 19/08/2011 11:22:53 AM 729 Views
Re: You make a fair point Camilla - 19/08/2011 02:06:05 PM 655 Views
Re: You make a fair point snoopcester - 19/08/2011 02:10:43 PM 634 Views
It's the other other white meat. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:13:19 PM 704 Views
There's so much wrong with that Isaac - 19/08/2011 01:08:57 PM 738 Views
"They don't recycle; kill them all. " Joel - 19/08/2011 07:11:15 PM 725 Views
Very Space Hippy Isaac - 19/08/2011 10:39:10 PM 743 Views
It's still debatable whether we've abandoned the evolutionary ladder. Joel - 19/08/2011 11:16:58 PM 851 Views
You'll welcome to debate that with a biologist, it's not my specialty or interest Isaac - 20/08/2011 04:46:43 AM 805 Views
I've seen a lot of mainstream biologists suggest human evolution may be mostly mental now. Joel - 21/08/2011 11:32:48 AM 823 Views
Neither of us are biologists though and it's not really relveant anyway Isaac - 21/08/2011 01:21:06 PM 795 Views
I'm not ignoring it, just wondering why over half the planet ignores it and lives in misery. Joel - 21/08/2011 01:55:53 PM 770 Views
If you have occassion to spend time in those places you'll know why Isaac - 21/08/2011 02:38:44 PM 688 Views
How does literal mud huts as the norm respresent living standards rising "a lot". Joel - 22/08/2011 12:29:35 AM 867 Views
You seem to have cherry-picked what you wanted to hear out of my comments Isaac - 22/08/2011 01:07:10 AM 573 Views
"It's a stability thing, not a Western greed thing" seemed to encapsulate your comments. Joel - 22/08/2011 03:10:17 PM 710 Views
Only if you really cherry pick them Isaac - 23/08/2011 02:48:08 AM 726 Views
This seems to have descended into an insoluble partisan debate. Joel - 23/08/2011 07:43:07 PM 790 Views
You're the one who dragged it to that Isaac - 23/08/2011 08:10:03 PM 704 Views
Did I? Joel - 25/08/2011 10:18:29 PM 730 Views
*rudely butts in* Vodalus - 23/08/2011 04:38:33 AM 768 Views
American companies don't go to China SOLELY to screw the working class, no;that's largely incidental Joel - 25/08/2011 08:03:05 PM 848 Views
we should abdon the myth of the evolutionary ladder random thoughts - 20/08/2011 11:49:35 PM 617 Views
Probably; as discussed in Brams thread it should never be seen as predictive, let alone prophetic. Joel - 21/08/2011 11:55:09 AM 726 Views
Well, for this context I think the use is okay Isaac - 21/08/2011 11:59:19 AM 719 Views
That's an interesting point about the NEED for fossil fuels as a stepping stone to advanced culture. Joel - 21/08/2011 12:33:59 PM 803 Views
Not a need, just an edge Isaac - 21/08/2011 02:06:23 PM 615 Views
There's industrialization and then there's industrialization. Joel - 22/08/2011 12:53:35 AM 970 Views
If you were more familiar with engineering you'd not say something like that Isaac - 22/08/2011 01:53:33 AM 1001 Views
I dispute that industrialization is primarily about non-agricultural production. Joel - 22/08/2011 03:10:19 PM 913 Views
Well you can argue that with a dictionary I suppose Isaac - 23/08/2011 03:50:52 AM 727 Views
I'm not above that, but the dictionary definitions I've found are disappointingly self-referential. Joel - 24/08/2011 02:25:21 AM 677 Views
That tends to be the case, it is a kinda vague term outside of specific context Isaac - 24/08/2011 09:12:19 AM 834 Views
Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Joel - 26/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 975 Views
Re: Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Isaac - 26/08/2011 05:52:59 PM 1001 Views
Re: Tends to moot that part of the debate though. Joel - 28/08/2011 09:44:52 AM 865 Views
yes I was just jumping into the middle of the discussion. random thoughts - 22/08/2011 03:03:49 PM 657 Views
and we wonder why so many people ignore "scientist" random thoughts - 19/08/2011 01:17:38 PM 743 Views
Think it's better to ignore "reporters on a slow news day," to be honest *NM* beetnemesis - 19/08/2011 02:38:23 PM 283 Views
Or even acquire a sense of humour. *NM* Camilla - 19/08/2011 08:36:07 PM 319 Views
That was the City of Pearl series by Karen Traviss Aeryn - 19/08/2011 02:04:51 PM 723 Views
Re: That was the City of Pearl series by Karen Traviss Camilla - 19/08/2011 02:06:27 PM 678 Views
Hypothetical aliens are perfectly wise aerocontrols - 19/08/2011 06:24:13 PM 648 Views
You may be confusing aliens with God. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:08:01 PM 688 Views
Not confused aerocontrols - 19/08/2011 11:41:56 PM 701 Views
It's a an amusing disconnect to watch. Joel - 20/08/2011 12:25:00 AM 705 Views
Naturally. Camilla - 19/08/2011 08:36:28 PM 784 Views
So, basically, we're the poor white trash of the universe. Joel - 19/08/2011 07:06:23 PM 745 Views
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