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I'm not trying to say they are mainstream left. Tom Send a noteboard - 01/09/2011 02:39:18 PM
I'm saying that vocal support of dictators is stronger on the left than on the right. Certainly, the mainstream left in the US tries to avoid these things.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Why does the Left support dictators? Tom - 01/09/2011 02:37:25 AM 1357 Views
They don't. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 02:45:52 AM 930 Views
Do you have anyone besides those two? Roland00 - 01/09/2011 02:52:19 AM 895 Views
Well, he also mentioned Michael Moore Isaac - 01/09/2011 04:34:03 AM 775 Views
I ususally do not respond to threads like this, for many threads like this are done by unreasonable Roland00 - 01/09/2011 12:21:10 PM 671 Views
kucinich is moderate-left not far left moondog - 01/09/2011 04:42:49 AM 704 Views
I'm not trying to say they are mainstream left. Tom - 01/09/2011 02:39:18 PM 850 Views
I would agree currently that is true (if you are talking fringe left vs fringe right) Roland00 - 01/09/2011 03:59:45 PM 707 Views
As I mentioned in my reply to Legolas, 40 or 50 years ago it was mutual hypocrisy. Tom - 01/09/2011 08:01:23 PM 672 Views
don't confuse the far left with the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich moondog - 01/09/2011 04:53:14 AM 903 Views
"the vast majority of americans who support people like kucinich" LOL thats funny *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 01:19:12 PM 331 Views
Yeah, I don't think most people support that deranged hobbit Tom - 01/09/2011 02:43:55 PM 739 Views
Tom, leave the absurdist and patently false dichotomies to trzaska. *NM* Stephen - 01/09/2011 11:43:35 AM 412 Views
Or at least add a smiley to your subject *NM* beetnemesis - 01/09/2011 12:57:45 PM 416 Views
Why does the Left support dictators? *NM* beetnemesis - 01/09/2011 12:59:19 PM 440 Views
There's nothing absurdist about it. Tom - 01/09/2011 02:40:32 PM 842 Views
That's just it... it ISN'T that obvious. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 06:46:41 PM 799 Views
Because there aren't any good right wing oppressive regimes for the Right to get behind these days? snoopcester - 01/09/2011 12:53:32 PM 705 Views
Iran Great Lord of Chaos - 01/09/2011 04:06:04 PM 869 Views
Wrong religion *NM* snoopcester - 01/09/2011 07:09:24 PM 411 Views
I am going to get flamed for this...but how about Israel Roland00 - 01/09/2011 10:03:59 PM 810 Views
You should read Postwar. If you haven't already. Legolas - 01/09/2011 06:18:55 PM 925 Views
No, there is at least one more explanation snoopcester - 01/09/2011 07:05:11 PM 915 Views
Yes, anti-Americanism is a very significant part of the equation. *NM* Tom - 01/09/2011 08:02:05 PM 419 Views
Outside America, yes, definitely. He seemed to be talking about inside the US though. Legolas - 01/09/2011 08:26:27 PM 903 Views
True snoopcester - 01/09/2011 08:45:05 PM 829 Views
well anti-Americanism runs about as strong in the American left as it does in European left *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 08:51:34 PM 459 Views
I was using US examples but not trying to limit myself to the US. Tom - 01/09/2011 09:57:57 PM 822 Views
I wanted to keep things confined to the present day. Tom - 01/09/2011 07:58:15 PM 691 Views
Hmm snoopcester - 01/09/2011 08:49:54 PM 740 Views
I disagree on the last point, and here's why: Tom - 01/09/2011 09:54:52 PM 864 Views
Interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way. *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2011 10:08:46 PM 413 Views
I think that does hold up to a point snoopcester - 02/09/2011 02:10:48 PM 788 Views
when you combine that with America's pro-British stance it explains why the Brits seem conflicted *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 07:51:41 PM 451 Views
America has a pro-British stance? I'm thinking that'd be news to most Brits. *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2011 08:27:33 PM 468 Views
Well like most things the Brits think they know about the US they would be wrong random thoughts - 01/09/2011 08:48:47 PM 915 Views
Of course, they are all the non-Jedi bad guys in Star Wars. Dannymac - 01/09/2011 09:10:46 PM 749 Views
Or they just see things differently. Legolas - 01/09/2011 10:15:20 PM 779 Views
But the Brits do need us, and we don't need them. Tom - 02/09/2011 06:01:10 PM 758 Views
Of course it's obvious. That doesn't mean they have to like it, or can't resent it. *NM* Legolas - 02/09/2011 06:14:37 PM 433 Views
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 01:25:40 AM 903 Views
how does that work for people like Chavez and Castro? random thoughts - 02/09/2011 01:30:02 PM 850 Views
Yes, that's how it works aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 10:29:38 PM 792 Views
I think your historical argument is flawed Tom - 02/09/2011 05:57:00 PM 953 Views
Possibly aerocontrols - 02/09/2011 10:37:19 PM 882 Views
I think that something has fundamentally changed now. Tom - 02/09/2011 11:21:02 PM 738 Views
I don't find your argument very convincing. Vodalus - 06/09/2011 05:20:12 AM 1029 Views
... I don't. Camilla - 06/09/2011 08:44:27 AM 821 Views
Apologies, I was sure I responded to this when you first posted the thread. Joel - 07/10/2011 05:55:27 AM 879 Views
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