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Re: No. Macharius Send a noteboard - 13/10/2011 01:59:58 PM
What is different about the federal government that you think prevents it from government bloat?


Because centralization is more efficient. I have no idea of what the actual numbers are, but suppose the federal government employs 10000 people to run the Social Security Administration. Should Social Security be turned over to each state, further suppose that each state will have to employ on average 500 people. 500*50=25000, or almost three times the number of people employed at the federal level. That means three times the number of paychecks that have to be funded out of the state level, three times the amount of benefits to be funded at the state level, etc. States are already broke: they can't afford to assume those responsibilities.

You can say that what people pay to the federal government would be turned over to the states instead, and this would be correct. The question then becomes, how do you handle people moving between states? Do you really think that Floria, Texas, or Arizona will be happy to all of a sudden be supporting the Social Security and Medicare payments for the hundreds of thousands of retirees who never worked a day to pay the tax in those states? If your answer is for the states in which people paid the tax to the states supporting the people... well, the complexity and bureaucracy requirements are absurd - and with no guarantee that cash-strapped states will honor a commitment to give away such huge portions of their income/bankroll!

On a higher level, I really don't understand the point of you asking such questions as this, or your democracy-communism question... not to be a dick about it, but the answers to the questions you're asking are blatantly obvious the minute you stop to think about it.
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Economy of scale applies to every private bureaucracy, but not government ones. - 13/10/2011 06:53:44 PM 370 Views
of course economy of scale applies just like diseconomy of scale - 13/10/2011 10:38:45 PM 453 Views
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you can do it with block grants - 13/10/2011 06:13:48 AM 361 Views
Believing the states can't do it, is not the same as saying the states will be less efficent or more *NM* - 13/10/2011 06:42:34 AM 149 Views
That is a BS argument - 13/10/2011 02:08:23 PM 366 Views
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Yep, You're correct. - 13/10/2011 06:53:38 AM 383 Views
I think you just pinpointed my basic problem with vouchers. - 13/10/2011 06:36:58 PM 423 Views
Ah, Tricare - 13/10/2011 10:07:59 PM 385 Views
I pretty much agree with this - 13/10/2011 02:03:04 PM 367 Views
No I do not believe they do could do Medicare or Social Security more effectively *NM* - 13/10/2011 06:41:03 AM 153 Views
Care to elaborate? *NM* - 13/10/2011 06:55:21 AM 176 Views
If programs to ensure federal citizen rights were divided among the states it would invite disparity - 13/10/2011 06:50:02 PM 458 Views
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Because some things do not matter much with geography and culture - 14/10/2011 02:20:04 AM 362 Views
Yet again I must disagree - 14/10/2011 05:04:43 AM 388 Views
I agree, it's not necessarily that the need itself changes... - 14/10/2011 09:06:19 AM 350 Views
The first thought that came to mind..... - 13/10/2011 08:55:36 PM 379 Views
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Except when its time to retire.... - 14/10/2011 04:03:22 PM 355 Views
Absolutely not *NM* - 14/10/2011 10:55:01 AM 183 Views

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