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I think you just pinpointed my basic problem with vouchers. Joel Send a noteboard - 13/10/2011 06:36:58 PM
I forgot that Medicaid is already state funded. From what I remember of stories when I lived back in Michigan everybody is quite unhappy with the job the state does to control "entitlement" abuses. Of course everybody is always unhappy with the job the government is doing.

I love privatization with EVERYTHING the government does and then giving the taxpayers the option to select public or private. If you select private then you get a voucher or tax refund for overpaying on services you didn't require from your government. Of course everyone will argue that it will create further inequality with the poor who can't afford the privatized offerings. I like to think of public offerings as the alternate to nothing at all rather than the norm. Unfortunately, government sponsored everything is the norm in today's world.

I think Obamacare is a great idea! Except I don't want it. I am in the military and if I had the chance to dump my "free" Tricare insurance, receive higher pay for services that I have elected not to use, and then go purchase my own private insurance, I would feel much better about my healthcare. Its a shady medical program we are forced to use.... Gimme my money and gimme my option I say!

Not that vouchers reduce both demand and funding for overtly public programs (though they certainly do so,) but that they spend taxpayer money on non-essential goods and services. They are so great a degree of dreaded "wasteful government spending" that even a hardcore liberal like me cannot accept them. If someone can and will privately purchase more and/or better services than bare survival requires, well and good; they earned and deserve it--but I see no reason taxpayers should purchase extra and/or non-essential services for those who simply WANT but cannot afford them.

Spending the nations money on things essential to the nation (food, shelter, healthcare, even clothing) is a no brainer unless one considers those without the means to purchase them net liabilities best eliminated. However, it is one thing to handout gritty bland government cheese to people who would otherwise starve and quite another to cut them a check for caviar on the taxpayers nickel. Subsistence is so much a federal responsibility that the Constitutions Preamble states "promot[ing] the general welfare" among its goals, but the federal government has neither duty nor right to spend any taxpayers money providing another MORE than subsistence.

In short, public programs should be neither the norm nor the alternative to nothing at all, but the STANDARD, the minimum survival requirements social contract government obligates states to ensure citizens. What value or even validity exists in a social contract government that cannot even prevent its constituents starving to death in return for their tax dollars? Yet if such a minimal and thus unsatisfying standard is the norm, the nation has done something very wrong, because then everyone wants but few can obtain more.

A superior private provider of goods and services is therefore as vital as a minimal public one as not only the means of greater achievement by the people, and the nation by extension, but the incentive for that achievement. Tax funded vouchers to get more than the minimum privately is just an incredibly insufficient attempt to normalize living standards in the worst Soviet tradition. This is getting a bit surreal, but the welfare state is not and was never meant to be taxpayer funded grab bag, and even Marx never said, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their WANT."
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Believing the states can't do it, is not the same as saying the states will be less efficent or more *NM* - 13/10/2011 06:42:34 AM 129 Views
That is a BS argument - 13/10/2011 02:08:23 PM 322 Views
Medicaid is already state-managed - 13/10/2011 06:22:54 AM 417 Views
Yep, You're correct. - 13/10/2011 06:53:38 AM 337 Views
I think you just pinpointed my basic problem with vouchers. - 13/10/2011 06:36:58 PM 362 Views
Ah, Tricare - 13/10/2011 10:07:59 PM 318 Views
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Care to elaborate? *NM* - 13/10/2011 06:55:21 AM 157 Views
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Yet again I must disagree - 14/10/2011 05:04:43 AM 331 Views
I agree, it's not necessarily that the need itself changes... - 14/10/2011 09:06:19 AM 310 Views
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