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Just because both contain the word "wall" doesn't mean they are the same thing. Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/11/2011 10:38:52 PM
Because they want guards to shoot people trying to get in rather than out of the country? I would have to see the polls in question to know whether the gay marriage comparison is applicable; I am sure you are aware of the distinction between civil unions and gay marriage, and it does make a big difference for a lot of folks (myself included, but then, because "marriage" connotes, and even denotes, so many religious things for so many people I would prefer their be no secular legislation on it in the first place.) Cain has a record of going well beyond mere immigrant or gay bashing though, as illustrated by the reference to his statement that most Muslims are extremists. What is the difference between saying Muslims are a threat to national security and saying Jews are?

The shooting is a good place as any to start - I don't think any American politician is either stupid or ruthless enough to advocate a border wall with guards shooting at those who approach it.

But there are still more crucial differences that make it such a retarded analogy. Such as the obvious fact that Mexicans would still be allowed into the US as tourists and legal immigrants, and all the wall would do is keep people from entering the country illegally - or making it a fair sight harder, anyway.

I don't know why I'm even bothering to point out things as obvious as this, I certainly have no intention of squabbling over them further when you (dare I say inevitably) feel the need to reply.

And certainly there is a difference between civil unions and gay marriage, but I think my point was clear all the same. And the attitudes towards homosexuality and gay unions of any kind espoused by the Greeks, to name the most obvious example, make the US look like one gigantic San Francisco - doesn't mean the Greeks are Nazis. Your excuses for why bringing them up was supposedly justified in this thread are really rather feeble.
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Just because both contain the word "wall" doesn't mean they are the same thing. - 23/11/2011 10:38:52 PM 494 Views
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