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Well, yes, I do realize there are people out there too good for decent jobs. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/01/2012 10:44:57 AM
There are many Americans who are lazy and entitled - I know, I've had to wade through the hiring process for the past five years. But other points that both of you and ent have presented are part of it. To some degree, we deserve that entitlement, given that it isn't right to expect someone to wake up at midnight w/o a choice to get working on whatever some dude decides he wants. Otoh, more people need to realize that they DO have to jump through a few more hoops to deserve the jobs to which they think they are entitled.

My father worked overtime on holidays to make as much money as possible, and there are plenty of men and women who still jump at those chances; however, we're at the point where the kids coming into the workforce have no idea that is even a concept. They've been too protected. I have some sympathy for people Jobs's position, but not much.

I just do not think there are 20 million of them who would rather be homeless and starve than get their hands dirty. Obviously everyone should at least TRY to find work; I have never and will never defended supporting those who will not. I just get annoyed when people reflexively insist no one is out of work that does not wish to be, just like the "immigrants are only taking jobs Americans refuse." I have a warm jacket and long underwear; at the moment I would be more than happy picking fruit in a field somewhere ten hours a day to put food on the table and pay rent. If it only paid a dollar an hour in a place where a one room apartment is running about a $1200/month I would surely resent it, but a dollar an hour still beats nothing an hour.
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Well, yes, I do realize there are people out there too good for decent jobs. - 23/01/2012 10:44:57 AM 744 Views
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