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I'm pretty sure it was Isaac Send a noteboard - 25/01/2012 01:53:26 AM
Bearing in mind that I relate to you a lot better than I do Amy, she may have been referring to the reflexive habit of many on the far right (including some posters here) to equate "liberal" with "un-American" and/or "un-patriotic." I would cite examples, but am not inclined to parse their merits (which our shared fascination with detail combined with our disparate politics ensures would happen. ;)) You know what I mean though, the classic "America: Love it or leave it" sentiment.


She previously commented in a thread about it, I'm disinclined to assume she didn't mean it that way and she didn't deny it either. Whichever, even where your interpretation the case, and I did consider it, I don't recall a rash here of any of us, left or right, calling their political opposites unpatriotic. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened but I don't see it as something one of the Usual Suspects would say, let alone regularly enough to justify the remark. Regardless it would have amounted to the same thing, Amy's openly 'as liberal as they come', if she wanted to make a remark about people being over political with an example, she should have picked one from her own neck of the woods. You may recall, possibly correctly, people using un-patriotic or the like, but in my experience people tend to remember ten or twenty incidents for every one that actually happened here. As an example, 'patriotic', including 'un' prefixes, appears a whopping 82 times on the CMB, and at least half of them are in posts authored by you. Most of the others I opened by people I thought might be examples turned up to have the word as a quote from you, and of the specific phrase 'unpatriotic', used 14 times on the CMB, you've used it the most, I use it twice, once in regard to saying politicians regular accuse each other of it in pretty words and the other "What in the world is wrong about complaining about taxes? Dear God it's practically unpatriotic not to." It then registers twice as a quote in a reply to me from Aisha and a reply to her from RT. RT uses it once in an ironic light in that old Sex Toy thread, Urza's got a hit as a quote in a reply to that. Elaine's got one "reluctantly and unpatriotically admit that St Patrick's Day doesn't really do it for me", and the other two are old, connected, and utterly unconnected to politics between cmdjing and Celia about Mongolians.

So, there's not really a rash of it. People read stuff elsewhere and project it a lot. For the record the word 'teabagger' also saw very limited usage and a good portion of that in the same fashion.

The CMB in general needs what it has always needed: People who dislike the predominance of a few topics to post others, and maybe get some friends to join them. I did not set out to be the guy with the most CMB posts, and would not be if this were wotmania at practically ANY point in its history. I post less here than I ever did there, yet the frequency there always fell behind plenty of people (well, OK, maybe not in the final months, but I wanted to hit 20k before the site closed.)


I'm not even sure if I'm in the Top 10 on the CMB, though I doubtless make the Top 3 on word count. What bothers me, and you obviously, is that neither of us particularly think political threads should be as common as a ratio, but as RT points out, that's because there aren't a lot of others. I don't feel anyone has a legit gripe when we average less than one a day.

Politics did not make the CMB a ghost town; the CMB becoming a ghost town made it heavily political, because only politics remained when all else was gone.


Agreed. Hell the majority of your threads aren't political and I don't think even 1 in 10 of mine have been, so its not exactly like us political posters are really throwing the ratio that much.
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This message last edited by Isaac on 25/01/2012 at 02:05:25 AM
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