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Well, again, Dark Matter & Dark Energy aren't all that related, there's Dark Fluid, Dark Flow, etc Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/06/2012 09:24:44 PM
So they're saying dark matter still exists? It seems like a terrible theory from a scientific perspective. From a philosophical perspective you can extrapolate dark matter, dark energy, multiple universes, wormholes, and a whole host of other things.


"Dark" is just a placeholder name equivalent to ?????? or WTF? Dark Matter originally just meant a catchall for anything we had problems detecting back when we were getting good enough at finding things and had a big data pool to actually be able to meaningful say things like 'There should be more stuff here.' There's really no relationship between the two.

The core problem remains, we can detect way more gravity localized around galaxies, this means mass (presumably anyway) in excess of what we can account for, if it's got mass it should be some discreet particle(s) having ruled out (more or less) things like MACHOs and RAMBOs. It's not ideal but postulating a type of matter with rest mass that interacts only very weakly beyond gravitationally isn't that weird a concept. A neutrino is the same, just without rest mass. Dark Energy is a whole different cup of tea. Dark Matter requires nothing weird then basically a neutrino that has mass.
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New Theory proposes alternative to Dark Energy in favor of Time running out - 19/06/2012 01:59:31 AM 983 Views
Does this have any implications regarding heat death? *NM* - 19/06/2012 02:58:39 AM 197 Views
Oh, I see. It will just be timeless. *NM* - 19/06/2012 02:59:28 AM 191 Views
It would more or less amount to the same thing anyway - 19/06/2012 03:07:09 AM 579 Views
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The theory of dark energy always rang hollow to me. - 19/06/2012 02:47:29 PM 562 Views
Re: The theory of dark energy always rang hollow to me. - 19/06/2012 04:14:32 PM 651 Views
I don't like the theory of dark energy, either, but how do you account for the bending of light? - 19/06/2012 03:08:03 PM 461 Views
Unlesss you're talking about Sachs-Wolfe Effect I think you mean Dark Matter - 19/06/2012 03:59:03 PM 664 Views
Yes. That is what I meant. - 19/06/2012 08:14:53 PM 431 Views
Well, again, Dark Matter & Dark Energy aren't all that related, there's Dark Fluid, Dark Flow, etc - 19/06/2012 09:24:44 PM 662 Views
Didn't they decide that neutrinos do have mass? - 20/06/2012 12:23:14 AM 441 Views
Very, very negligible mass - 20/06/2012 01:02:00 AM 648 Views
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Well, I can give you a BS-FTL Drive from it no prob - 19/06/2012 03:40:51 PM 557 Views
Your subtle reminder I yet owe you a few responses? - 19/06/2012 09:35:25 PM 681 Views
Rad. *NM* - 30/06/2012 10:03:34 PM 195 Views

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