Rape - British left wing politician takes on American right wing politician in stupidest comment off - Edit 2
Before modification by snoopcester at 22/08/2012 11:06:36 PM
So.
George Galloway, British left wing politician and general arse -
The Respect MP then suggested one of the women had claimed she invited Mr Assange back to her flat, had consensual sex with him and then "woke up to him having sex with her again - something which can happen, you know".
"Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you're already in the sex game with them," he continued.
"It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, 'do you mind if I do it again?'
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"It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/9490122/George-Galloway-Julian-Assange-rape-allegations-nothing-but-bad-sexual-etiquette.html
Is there a point at which consent is assumed to have elapsed then, or does the woman (or man) have to formerly state it?
Todd Atkin, American right wing politician -
"Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/08/19/republican-senate-nominee-todd-akin-victims-of-legitimate-rape-dont-get-pregnant/
(some context on Atkin's use of "legitimate rape" might be that previously he only supported abortion in the case of "forcible rape", in a bill co-authored with Ryan)
Hard to know which one is stupider... though the bright side for Galloway is that it might be better to be remembered as the guy who made the stupid comment about rape rather than the one who sucked up to Saddam. Maybe.
George Galloway, British left wing politician and general arse -
The Respect MP then suggested one of the women had claimed she invited Mr Assange back to her flat, had consensual sex with him and then "woke up to him having sex with her again - something which can happen, you know".
"Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you're already in the sex game with them," he continued.
"It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, 'do you mind if I do it again?'
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"It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/9490122/George-Galloway-Julian-Assange-rape-allegations-nothing-but-bad-sexual-etiquette.html
Is there a point at which consent is assumed to have elapsed then, or does the woman (or man) have to formerly state it?
Todd Atkin, American right wing politician -
"Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/08/19/republican-senate-nominee-todd-akin-victims-of-legitimate-rape-dont-get-pregnant/
(some context on Atkin's use of "legitimate rape" might be that previously he only supported abortion in the case of "forcible rape", in a bill co-authored with Ryan)
Hard to know which one is stupider... though the bright side for Galloway is that it might be better to be remembered as the guy who made the stupid comment about rape rather than the one who sucked up to Saddam. Maybe.