The logic is invalid because invalid, however either of us feels about where it leads. - Edit 1
Before modification by Joel at 25/08/2012 10:41:40 PM
You incorrectly hold any mental trauma justifying abortion also incapacitates a woman to choose abortion. By that logic gunshot victims are incompetent to decide their own treatment. Great mental trauma is not automatically incapacitating, and calling women seeking abortions legally insane is not a winning argument.
Recall your analogy: Killing someone to prevent them pushing a kid down a well is not vigilantism, especially for a sheriff. If a fetus is unambiguously a harmless child, that is where we are. It is precisely your logic in saying a fetus agreed to be a child denies abortion doctors in non-triage situations any legal protection. Whether you meant protection from or BY law is irrelevant; either way, killing attempted murderers to save their intended victim is neither vigilantism nor immoral.
That is not my view, but much of the GOPs, e.g. the sheriff candidate cited. He has not gotten Akins national attention, so Republicans are not falling over each other racing to condemn him, refuse RNC campaign funds etc. for publicly stating the party line. I did not approve the latest of many GOP platforms demanding a constitutional abortion ban, without exceptions. I did not invent the Army of Gods manifesto, nor say I would apply it once elected sheriff.
And what's all this 'kill the doctor' crap? You realize you've totally been off and wrong the whole conversation and seek to rebuttal by tossing that out there? Disobeying an unjust law is not the same as taking the law into your own hands. Nor can one credibly accuse someone of murder if they think, with the law on their side too, that it is not murder. Because they are right, it isn't. Our laws and core ethical code do not break killing into 'accident, self-defense, and premeditated murder with malice aforethought', there are degrees for a reason. I oppose slavery, if teleported back to Georgia circa 1850 I would not be going around gunning down slave owners.
So if you want to discuss vigilante justice and your own twisted view that being pro-life is illogical if you don't engage in vigilante murder, do it with someone else.
So if you want to discuss vigilante justice and your own twisted view that being pro-life is illogical if you don't engage in vigilante murder, do it with someone else.
Recall your analogy: Killing someone to prevent them pushing a kid down a well is not vigilantism, especially for a sheriff. If a fetus is unambiguously a harmless child, that is where we are. It is precisely your logic in saying a fetus agreed to be a child denies abortion doctors in non-triage situations any legal protection. Whether you meant protection from or BY law is irrelevant; either way, killing attempted murderers to save their intended victim is neither vigilantism nor immoral.
That is not my view, but much of the GOPs, e.g. the sheriff candidate cited. He has not gotten Akins national attention, so Republicans are not falling over each other racing to condemn him, refuse RNC campaign funds etc. for publicly stating the party line. I did not approve the latest of many GOP platforms demanding a constitutional abortion ban, without exceptions. I did not invent the Army of Gods manifesto, nor say I would apply it once elected sheriff.