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First off, what the hell? Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 06:33:37 AM
Personally, I find 13 to be too young in my opinion, but I have been raised with modern western values, which conditions us this way. Two to three hundred years ago (if even that) a man in his 30s sleeping with a teen under 16 wouldn't even cause people to bat an eye, unless they weren't married.


I mean, I'm not saying black people are inferior, but there's a correlation between race and IQ, and two to three hundred years ago a man having sex with his slave against her will would be seen as making use of his property.

Not that that's right. But I've been raised with western values, so who's to say what's really right?

2) The only reason (IMO) children in our era lack in maturity (as defined by adults, btw) is the way we tend to coddle them, and hide the realities of the world from them, especially when it comes to procreation. The "victim" of Polanski's crime has admitted it was consensual, but still the charge is considered rape (statutory).

You can't give consent when you're drunk. Which she was. Because he gave her alcohol. So not only was it statutory rape, which is a perfectly decent reason to throw the bastard in jail, but it was flat-out non-consensual rape as well.

And no, I am NOT IN ANY WAY condoning Mr. Polanski's actions, nor am I excusing them.

Which is why you just wrote that post...
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Roman Polanski arrested in Switzerland on U.S. Arrest Warrant Dan - 27/09/2009 12:47:16 PM 855 Views
Ignore, this is just a repeat. Thought I hit edit. Dan - 27/09/2009 12:48:31 PM 489 Views
The new website seems to make that more common, at least for me random thoughts - 27/09/2009 04:33:52 PM 357 Views
And it only took three decades *NM* Isaac - 27/09/2009 12:57:40 PM 199 Views
Excellent. Good news. Wibble - 27/09/2009 03:28:28 PM 417 Views
Very good random thoughts - 27/09/2009 04:37:40 PM 420 Views
That point sort of struck me too... globug0822 - 27/09/2009 04:50:54 PM 376 Views
oh well you know kids these days... LadyLorraine - 27/09/2009 05:12:51 PM 418 Views
that'd technically be "those days". *NM* jh - 27/09/2009 08:21:57 PM 160 Views
Right. everynametaken - 27/09/2009 08:12:06 PM 408 Views
That's the point that jumps out at me, too. Mats Gambling Buddy - 27/09/2009 05:01:09 PM 396 Views
This is pointless Floffe - 27/09/2009 05:30:01 PM 419 Views
Actually, maybe not. Chas - 27/09/2009 05:56:31 PM 396 Views
true, but Dan - 27/09/2009 08:16:28 PM 438 Views
Doesn't work that way Isaac - 27/09/2009 09:17:27 PM 384 Views
I must have missed the part of him already being convicted. My bad. *NM* Floffe - 27/09/2009 09:23:01 PM 168 Views
Was I the only one who was shocked when he got a standing ovation at the Oscars awhile back? Joker - 28/09/2009 12:59:23 AM 341 Views
He gets a somewhat skewed sympathy vote from a lot of people because of the murder of his wife Werthead - 28/09/2009 01:58:16 AM 513 Views
Well said. Joker - 28/09/2009 04:03:00 AM 427 Views
Yes, Cannoli - 28/09/2009 12:37:29 PM 408 Views
It's been 30 years. He does not seem to have done it again The Shrike - 28/09/2009 01:48:26 PM 388 Views
They don't have to try him he plead guility random thoughts - 28/09/2009 02:43:12 PM 405 Views
Meh. It's been 30 years. The Shrike - 28/09/2009 04:03:51 PM 418 Views
Did she say she forgave him? Wibble - 29/09/2009 01:15:46 AM 398 Views
Yes, she did. *NM* The Shrike - 29/09/2009 02:54:47 PM 165 Views
After he paid her off I assume? Wibble - 29/09/2009 07:06:37 PM 398 Views
We wouldn't be having this discussion if it hadn't been so long. Legolas - 29/09/2009 07:46:21 PM 425 Views
Don't you think laws have to stand whether the perp is forgiven by the victim or not? Joker - 29/09/2009 02:58:18 AM 392 Views
No, I don't think it should. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 02:55:13 PM 402 Views
How long do you have to stay away before you're absolved of murder? Joker - 29/09/2009 02:56:58 AM 366 Views
Murder and sex with a minor are not the same thing. The Shrike - 29/09/2009 02:54:10 PM 361 Views
They are, in my opinion, the two worst crimes a human being can commit. Joker - 01/10/2009 03:28:45 AM 369 Views
I heard a bit more about it this morning Floffe - 28/09/2009 03:33:42 PM 355 Views
I'm not saying that sex with 13 year olds is right or anything, but... imlad - 28/09/2009 10:49:29 PM 512 Views
It used to be legal to have children under 9 working in the pits for 16 hours a day, but... Wibble - 29/09/2009 01:20:40 AM 367 Views
First off, what the hell? Ghavrel - 29/09/2009 06:33:37 AM 372 Views
I was confused by that, too. It's like, I'm not saying, I'm just saying. Joker - 29/09/2009 08:09:14 AM 406 Views
can't consent when drunk? imlad - 01/10/2009 09:24:39 PM 340 Views
With a 13 year old? Sex is NEVER consensual. Joker - 01/10/2009 09:39:35 PM 355 Views
This too. Ghavrel - 02/10/2009 02:30:45 AM 320 Views
Was I unclear? Ghavrel - 02/10/2009 02:30:30 AM 367 Views
I'm safe imlad - 02/10/2009 07:11:07 PM 353 Views
Good. Point still stands. Ghavrel - 03/10/2009 05:43:12 AM 351 Views
Sorry but you are excusing his action random thoughts - 29/09/2009 03:54:02 PM 358 Views
Wrong place *NM* Wibble - 29/09/2009 07:12:31 PM 157 Views
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