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Both those charges are fact checked and verified. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/10/2012 03:05:01 PM
Granted, Romney trotted out "apology tour" (in which he narrowed the scope of his inaccuracy from before) and "5.4% unemployment" (in which, while the figure is inaccurate, he still makes a valid overall point about Obama's hyperbolic campaign promises in 2008).

Romney said bin Laden was not worth moving heaven and earth to get; he said exactly the opposite mere days later, but we already knew Romney flip flops a lot.

He also wrote an op ed demanding Detroit go bankrupt; he suggested they would avoid liquidation thanks to private investor help, but when Obama took office the economy was plummeting and every single investor asked—including Romneys own Bain Capital—turned the Big Three down flat: Without a government bailout they would have gone into Chapter 7 liquidation and no longer exist.

Obama did not make any of that up; they are statements Romney made, and if the only defense is "candidates say a lot of things during campaigns they really do not mean," what does that suggest about Romneys conflicting promises now?
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Which might those be? - 23/10/2012 07:25:24 AM 464 Views
Also "heaven and earth" and bankrupt Detroit. - 23/10/2012 12:23:21 PM 454 Views
Both those charges are fact checked and verified. - 23/10/2012 03:05:01 PM 470 Views
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*blinks* - 23/10/2012 06:08:00 AM 518 Views
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You are too hung up on a "port" - 26/10/2012 03:13:59 PM 397 Views
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and one he seems to keep making - how many times do you give someone the benefit of the doubt? - 23/10/2012 11:46:55 PM 526 Views
it is simply a standard descriptive line. - 24/10/2012 03:54:49 PM 494 Views
What is? - 25/10/2012 11:15:28 AM 397 Views
that was my favorite as well. *NM* - 23/10/2012 08:10:36 PM 194 Views
These debates need a stat boy, PTI style. - 23/10/2012 06:43:02 AM 461 Views
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