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Right, I did conflate the investment and the insurance; sorry. Joel Send a noteboard - 25/12/2012 01:56:59 AM
I love the way you will expound at length about virtually anything, whether or not you actually know what you are talking about.

Fannie and Freddies execs chased profits from the investments (CMOs) while execs at large private banks (or rather, other large private banks) chased profits from the insurance (credit default swaps.) The primary focus of neither was profits from lending, because Glass-Stegalls ban on firms engaging in investment, insurance and lending simultaneously instead of just one of the three disappeared due to Gramm-Leach-Bliley. The point stands.
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Community Reinvestment Act formally linked to the Sub-Prime/Mortgage Crisis - Anonymous2000 - 22/12/2012 09:01:56 PM 354 Views
Did you see the part of the graph where higher debt leveled off in '98 and stayed there 2 years? Joel - 23/12/2012 04:13:01 AM 251 Views
Oh yeah, one of Bill Clinton's last acts as President Tom - 23/12/2012 02:47:23 PM 155 Views
... was signing a bill authored by three Republicans and passed with only ONE Dem Senators vote. Joel - 23/12/2012 11:37:10 PM 267 Views
Nice try - the repeal was all Clinton and Rubin.....buck stops with the leader. Anonymous2000 - 24/12/2012 03:44:53 AM 136 Views
So the three Republicans who WROTE the bill are blameless; the guy who signed it is at fault. Joel - 24/12/2012 05:33:21 AM 254 Views
"Before you laugh too hard"..... Anonymous2000 - 24/12/2012 11:32:45 PM 232 Views
To say I am conflicted about this would be an understatement. Joel - 25/12/2012 02:27:47 AM 247 Views
Also, did you just paraphrase Bill Clintons argument for Robamacare?! Joel - 25/12/2012 03:36:37 AM 220 Views
You're confusing CDOs with credit default swaps. Tom - 24/12/2012 02:11:02 PM 142 Views
Right, I did conflate the investment and the insurance; sorry. Joel - 25/12/2012 01:56:59 AM 240 Views
I've been trying to explain this to people for years. HyogaRott - 26/12/2012 02:54:04 PM 140 Views
You and most of the GOP, but the facts do not support that narrative. Joel - 26/12/2012 05:54:28 PM 231 Views
Glass-Stegal was not repealed in a vacuum. There were many other regulatory changes HyogaRott - 26/12/2012 07:40:45 PM 136 Views
I know the narrative; the facts still do not support it. Joel - 26/12/2012 08:43:25 PM 213 Views
Only when you ignore half of them. HyogaRott - 27/12/2012 03:33:53 PM 122 Views
The entire "logic" ignores the most salient fact in the whole discussion. Joel - 28/12/2012 02:34:12 PM 224 Views
Your focus on that bill is the error. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 04:47:03 PM 241 Views
Any stats showing a disproportionate number of Fannie/Freddie defaults were by minorities? Joel - 28/12/2012 05:50:01 PM 244 Views
It has got NOTHING to do with skin color, the only color that should matter in banking is green. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 09:36:34 PM 151 Views
It should not, no, but the GOP dog whistles demonstrate it does. Joel - 28/12/2012 10:49:34 PM 130 Views
Get over YOUR perception that I give a damn about anyone's genetic background. I don't. HyogaRott - 29/12/2012 04:18:22 PM 259 Views
Your incredible knowledge on this would fill a thimble. There were MULTIPLE issues> HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 09:50:17 PM 273 Views
I love that part, too: "What Carter did in the '70s caused the subprime mortgage crisis in 2005." Joel - 28/12/2012 10:32:17 PM 128 Views
The policy began in the 70s, was MASIVELY expanded in the 90s, and blew up in the 00s. HyogaRott - 29/12/2012 04:43:26 PM 234 Views
CRA was a disaster for the nation.....go ahead, you can admit it. Anonymous2000 - 26/12/2012 08:32:33 PM 151 Views
The facts are in the graph in the article, and do not support that narrative. Joel - 26/12/2012 08:44:23 PM 214 Views
The facts support it perfectly. You vs. reality is the problem here. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 26/12/2012 09:51:45 PM 54 Views
You, sir, have a richly developed sense of irony. Joel - 26/12/2012 10:43:45 PM 206 Views
It is a pure causation line, get over it. HyogaRott - 27/12/2012 03:35:19 PM 137 Views
Our Second Amendment discussions disqualify you as an authority on causality. Joel - 28/12/2012 02:58:04 PM 232 Views
I couldn't care less about party they both screwed up repeatedly. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 04:50:25 PM 112 Views
Then why do you insist on blaming Barney Frank exclusively? Joel - 28/12/2012 05:54:48 PM 232 Views
Because he is the person most responsible for forcing banks to lower lending standards. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 28/12/2012 06:49:28 PM 129 Views
No he is not. It began in the 90s, well before he became chairman of the house commitee. *NM* HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 09:57:02 PM 85 Views
Right, a guy who was only part of the House majority for two years did it all. Joel - 28/12/2012 11:03:08 PM 230 Views
I blame Barny for the under colateralization of F&F that he allowed and blocking the audit. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 09:54:27 PM 116 Views
Even were the charge valid (it is not,) if you believe it the crisis' main cause naught can help you Joel - 28/12/2012 11:00:14 PM 130 Views
The debate on comparative financial policies of the parties belongs elsewhere. lets keep on point. HyogaRott - 29/12/2012 04:15:13 PM 130 Views
.back on point HyogaRott - 29/12/2012 04:50:24 PM 258 Views
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