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Damn, for a moment I thought I solved the puzzle Isaac Send a noteboard - 04/02/2013 07:48:03 PM
For the record, GO DID perm ban me in the end, though I am not sure what for other than refusing to tow the GOP line.


I am guessing there's a bit more to it than not toeing the line, most of the senior active party members regularly do their own thing and disagree with specific policy. The party only gets pissy when office holders, gov't or party type, make statements that are contrary and derogatory.

I did not use profanity, link porn, become abusive or anything like that. All I did was post a pic of Reagan with the "long form" birth certificate not issued until 2+ years AFTER his presidency ended. Now, I have since learned that pic is disingenuous; Reagans birth was initially registered in 1942, and the 1991 birth certificate in the pic was a COPY requested for display in the Reagan Library (or so the dirty liberals at Snopes WANT us to believe. ;)) The moral is "always vet sources, especially those online," but if everyone who made that error got perm banned I would not be subjected semi-daily to fake Hitler quotes about gun control and fake Lenin quotes about destabilizing the West with sex.


If these guys are birthers they aren't popular with the GOP.

The guy who started the FB group where I found this article created a new account to get back into "The Constitution by GO[P]" but I will not bother, since it would only make me another tick on a stat sheet they can use to say, "look, journalists and legislators, even an American so liberal he moved to socialist NORWAY supports our policies with active participation in our FB group." Not that that is why I moved to Norway in the first place (Canada was a heckuva lot closer and more language-friendly, and even Mexico has socialized medicine and college) but you get the point.


I actually don't get your point. As I said way back, I think it was wrong-headed of you to even involve yourself there.

All that to say, yes, the post resonated very well with me. Call it confirmation bias if you like, but seeing something like that in the e-company of people I met in a FB group created by a GOP astroturfing organization lent it a fair amount of credibility. Generation Opportunity evidently no longer bothers even nominally hiding their origins, else their founder would not have been interviewed at the 2012 Republican National Convention as a "Romney advisor."


Astro-turfing is what the other side calls it when any vaguely grassroots group is even suspected of getting any support or guidance from a political group. It's a dumb and hypocritical notion, because any grassroots group with common sense will be reaching out to experienced politicos for tactics and support, and the 'establishment' will try to absorb them because that's common sense. Of course I tend to hold 'grassroots' efforts in moderate contempt anyway, the cult analogies I often make about such groups aren't made casually. Most grassroots groups that manage not to fall apart or get absorbed long enough to last a year or so tend to have similar characteristics to a cult.

In the age of Swift Boat Veterans for Bush, but Not Officially Because It Would Violate McCain-Feingold and Subject Bush to Blowback, it almost does not MATTER if this particular confession is legitimate. Whether or not the author did what he claims, you can bet plenty of other people do.


I don't think so, look I've got a spreadsheet of people who are willing to write letters to the editor, already know the stuff, and will do it for free. Some aren't eloquent, others are, and I'm anything but unique in keeping a physical or mental list of such people. Why spend money when we're always low on it and we always need to find things like this to keep people engaged and feeling like they do something important?

The only thing I would really question is whether any campaigns/lobbies/parties are willing to spend much, if any, money on it, since most have plenty of true believers eager to do it for free. Of course, you may have noticed my post volume has dropped dramatically since I started working last Halloween; the unscrupulous definitely have much reason to pay full time shills. How is it really different than lobbying? Because the targets are voters rather than legislators?


That logic sort of works except we've got interns and we don't usually need to pay them either, and most spend a lot of time doing boring make work outside of Fall every four years.
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