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Possibly. Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/10/2009 12:02:05 AM
Just like I think he is over playing how much of this simply coming from the right. Cable news is part of the problem but the real extremism comes from talk radio (both sides) and the internet. Many of these fairly well known websites have become virtual hate groups. Look at the comments you see at places like red meat or Kos. These people only talk to people like themselves and work themselves into a frenzy convincing themselves that the other side is not only wrong with ideas but that they have evil intent.

Yep. Fairly scary.
I think part of the answer is we need to stop giving the fringe so much voice. Obama may be in part a victim but I think he also needs to take a large share of the blame. Part of his strategy has been to make the republicans appear as a dead end group of extremist who only know how to say no. That is why he call Rush a party leader and why his staff draws so much attention to groups like the birthers. For all of Bush's faults he didn't waste time and give credibility to the truthers. Attacking and insulting dissenters is also not an effective method of bring down the tone in this country. If the left has problem with the tone these days they really should look at what comes out of their own mouths and ask how that is affecting tone.

Friedman is left on some issues, right on others. It certainly isn't just the left that has a problem with the tone. And yes, certainly Obama is guilty of this as much as other politicians - when considering his position he ought to be setting an example instead.
The biggest role I think the media is playing in the escalating levels of partisanship in this country is that they lost the faith of the American people. Polls show that Americans trust the media about as much as they trust the politicians they cover. Grossly biased coverage from places like the NYT is a major factor in that loss of trust.

What, you think only right-wing Americans have lost faith in the media? It's not new that the media take sides in the political debate and that many newspapers are slanted left or right of center. What *is* relatively new is the way every careless phrasing or mistake from a politician is immediately reported all over and analyzed, every insignificant incident is blown up into a massive fuss and scandal, politicians are expected to have an opinion ready on everything that happens, and so on. The reason why cable news is mentioned often as a big culprit, is the 24/7 aspect. To some extent that also counts for talk radio I suppose, but afaik most radio pundits just have a show once a day, or even just a few times a week, much like printed newspapers are published daily - websites, including newspaper websites, are definitely in the 24/7 category. The difference is that 24/7 TV reporting speeds things up by so much: things are reported almost in real-time, politicians have to have their reactions ready right away, no time to reconsider the phrasing or check some basic facts first. And of course that to have watchable content for all those hours of TV each day, the channels go on and on about whatever the scandal of the day is.
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