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Personally, I think you're seeing the cart rather than the horse, but that's just me. Joel Send a noteboard - 02/10/2009 08:14:46 AM
There were always people who demonized the other side, and some who even did so sincerely, thought it was their justified stand against the Source of All Evil, but I do think it's a lot more pervasive now, and the added exposure just spreads it even more broadly. The Guy Fawkes' used to be a lot less numerous here, but as the moral element has grown on BOTH sides it's increasingly become harder to view policy differences as a repudiation of all that's sacred. That's part of why there's so much less willingness to compromise; you don't compromise with monolithic evil, because there aren't any concessions you're willing to make.


i'm watching people who are all supposed to be on the same side politically get caught up in the partisanship and sniping at each other. and yes, trying to convince the other people that anything counter to their view is Evil (yes, with a capital E). and this is just one faction of one part of the political landscape.

when you get a bunch of people together whose only function is to out-think the opposition, you will get the kind of reactions you're getting. the only reason it seems so bad now is exactly because of the "broad spread" of media coverage. we have 150,000,000 cable talking heads to get the word out, something that just wasn't feasible until the last 20 years. human nature hasn't changed in 200,000 years of evolution and the partisanship we see in politics is nothing more than human nature at its worst.

Time was they saw their function as more than out-thinking (or out-attacking; there's very little thought involved these days, it seems) the opposition. That started, IMHO, when it reached the stage that ANY compromise with the opposition became unthinkable, because the other side wasn't just an alternate view of what was best for America, but a soulless attack on America itself. Even fifty years ago Senator Margaret Chase-Smith (R-ME) rose to condemn fellow Republican Senator Joe McCarthys shameful witch hunting, but there's precious little of that today. Because now any advance of the oppositions policies isn't just a difference over the best way to achieve shared goals for the country, or even competing goals for the country--it's an assault on America itself, a malevolent strike at the heart of Mom, the flag and apple pie.

Sure, there are folks out there who are just cynically playing the demagoguery game for their own advancement, and the media blitz encourages that because exposure mean ratings for the media and tearing down the other guys poll numbers means padding your own. But I don't think that kind of gamesmanship at the countrys expense is as widespread as it would have to be to explain what we see now. The majority of those leading the charge are, I think, sincere yet sincerely wrong in their approach if not necessarily their motives. Some of it's group think and some of it's living in echo chambers online and elsewhere, but, ultimately, I think, as someone often guilty of it myself, that when you see everything through a strongly moral lens, when that's the underlying basis of all your policy desires... well, if our side has a monopoly on all that's sacred, OBVIOUSLY "opposition" to all that's sacred is support for all that's unholy. That means no negotiation, no compromise, no shared victory is possible. No peace with the Shadow and all that. ;)
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