it didn't become an issue until it started hurting the left
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 02/10/2009 04:44:29 PM
I agree that things are getting worse right now but I do think such things go in cycles. I simply don't agree that the media over hyping things is the primary cause for things slipping. If you look back at my post I have been saying for some time that insulting and dismissing the critics of the administration and the blatant bias shown by the media was going radicalize people. When the media and the democrats insulted and dismissed these people they made a tactical error. They didn't realize that for every person shouting at a town hall there were thousands who at least sympathized with them. The more they attempted to dismiss these people the more the angered their supporters and spread the movement.
And sorry the speaker of the house doesn't get to use the term Nazi in any fashion when referring to peaceful protesters and then act like she was not trying to imply they were Nazis. You may choose to defend her by splitting hairs over what she said but we all know the message she was trying to send and I judge her by her intent. She damn sure doesn't get be all weepy afterwards and wring her hands over the tone of the argument after throwing terms like Nazi and un-American around.
There are reasons why the last few presidents have been seen as less then legitimate. Clinton was only able to win because the crazy little dwarf pulled so many votes from Bush and Dole. Clinton never received 50% of the popular vote so he always operated mandate free. Bush of course had the 2000 vote going against him even though he did get more then 50% in 2004. With Obama I think the majority of people are not bothered so much by the question of if he was born in the US, the majority know they are being disingenuous with that and simply refuse to admit it, but they think he was helped by a biased media who had their thumb on the scale. Who did things like run hit pieces on McCain and his family but refused to vet Obama. He amplified every mistake Palin made but laughed off glary and shocking errors made by the much more experienced Biden. The ignored things like even with all the damnation of lobbyist Biden’s own son is a lobbyist.
So yes things have gotten worse of late but it isn't because Fox News ran clips of ACORN helping set up childhood white slavery rings so much as the rest refusing to do so until Fox forced their hand. Why is Fox always the first one to get these clips out there? Are they simply so much better or do the others just not want to run them?
You may have linked a Friedman article, who I agree can’t be seen as a person solidly in one camp or another though I do think he leans left, but Friedman was hardly the first to raise this issue and he is more giving voice to others argument then he is making one his self.
And sorry the speaker of the house doesn't get to use the term Nazi in any fashion when referring to peaceful protesters and then act like she was not trying to imply they were Nazis. You may choose to defend her by splitting hairs over what she said but we all know the message she was trying to send and I judge her by her intent. She damn sure doesn't get be all weepy afterwards and wring her hands over the tone of the argument after throwing terms like Nazi and un-American around.
There are reasons why the last few presidents have been seen as less then legitimate. Clinton was only able to win because the crazy little dwarf pulled so many votes from Bush and Dole. Clinton never received 50% of the popular vote so he always operated mandate free. Bush of course had the 2000 vote going against him even though he did get more then 50% in 2004. With Obama I think the majority of people are not bothered so much by the question of if he was born in the US, the majority know they are being disingenuous with that and simply refuse to admit it, but they think he was helped by a biased media who had their thumb on the scale. Who did things like run hit pieces on McCain and his family but refused to vet Obama. He amplified every mistake Palin made but laughed off glary and shocking errors made by the much more experienced Biden. The ignored things like even with all the damnation of lobbyist Biden’s own son is a lobbyist.
So yes things have gotten worse of late but it isn't because Fox News ran clips of ACORN helping set up childhood white slavery rings so much as the rest refusing to do so until Fox forced their hand. Why is Fox always the first one to get these clips out there? Are they simply so much better or do the others just not want to run them?
You may have linked a Friedman article, who I agree can’t be seen as a person solidly in one camp or another though I do think he leans left, but Friedman was hardly the first to raise this issue and he is more giving voice to others argument then he is making one his self.
Where Did "We" Go?
01/10/2009 09:30:12 PM
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How do you change this though?
01/10/2009 10:51:10 PM
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Pelosi is part of the problem
01/10/2009 11:10:45 PM
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that was hyperbole, as he's said OVER AND OVER
02/10/2009 06:21:16 PM
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really which elected leaders on the right talked about death panels?
02/10/2009 06:41:05 PM
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Dumb column from Friedman.....read a history book.....
01/10/2009 11:15:46 PM
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I disagree, obviously.
02/10/2009 12:11:48 AM
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No, it hasn't always been like this; I think Watergate changed it, and maybe Vietnam.
02/10/2009 02:13:07 AM
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remarkably, i agree with the troll
02/10/2009 06:27:40 AM
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Partisanship, yes, but this is more than that.
02/10/2009 06:57:14 AM
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i see things at a different level than you do
02/10/2009 07:31:24 AM
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Personally, I think you're seeing the cart rather than the horse, but that's just me.
02/10/2009 08:14:46 AM
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Not true
02/10/2009 12:32:58 AM
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why did we fight the Spanish American War and the War of 1812 again?
02/10/2009 04:18:56 AM
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You just completely undermined your point
02/10/2009 06:22:54 AM
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I think the role of cable news is over played
01/10/2009 11:29:26 PM
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Possibly.
02/10/2009 12:02:05 AM
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To many people distrust the media for it to be just the right who distrust them
02/10/2009 04:15:50 AM
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i agree that the fringe has way more power than it should, but...
02/10/2009 06:38:41 AM
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I think Friedman puts it very well when he says...
02/10/2009 11:24:02 AM
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did I read this correctly?
02/10/2009 03:00:33 PM
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As I already told you, this is not about "the left" complaining.
02/10/2009 03:38:15 PM
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it didn't become an issue until it started hurting the left
02/10/2009 04:44:29 PM
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Eh, many aspects of it have been criticized for a long time.
02/10/2009 09:12:22 PM
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also, about clinton, since you say you were too young to remember...
02/10/2009 06:47:45 AM
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really because my memory goes back further then that and things were nasty then to
02/10/2009 03:04:58 PM
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