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Maybe to some extent, but I don't think that's a big factor. Legolas Send a noteboard - 18/02/2015 07:05:37 PM

View original postPeople who immigrate to America, in general, know they are coming to a rough place but if they work hard and get their foot in the door they can become successful.

Yes, I do agree that's part of the attraction. But honestly, if we're talking about the Muslims in Europe, the largest part of them by far are those who came as guest workers back in the sixties and seventies, and their descendants (though yeah, as I said, many of those descendants did marry people from the home country and added to the immigration numbers that way). Those people weren't going to Europe to sit on their ass and get unemployment benefits, they went to work hard and make money to maintain their family, just like in America. And in many cases, their families weren't even allowed to join them until a number of years later.
View original postI know Israelies that move to America tend to start a business, sometimes something as simple as a moving truck, sometimes a hitech stint in Silicon Valley.

View original postOTOH Israelies who move to Europe... Meh. They want the free enrollment to University that some countries offer and other candy. Not exactly a get it done attitude.

I don't think Israelis are really representative in this case, though. They are plenty rich enough to begin with, so if they emigrate, then yes, the choice might be motivated more by cultural or mentality-related preferences. The same applies for wealthy Arabs / Muslims who choose to emigrate either to the US or to Europe. But the large majority of poor emigrants doesn't really have the luxury to make their choice based on that kind of criterium.
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Maybe to some extent, but I don't think that's a big factor. - 18/02/2015 07:05:37 PM 641 Views

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