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So it will be Macron vs Le Pen after all Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/04/2017 09:42:37 PM

For the first time in modern French history, neither major party has made it to the run-off of the presidential elections, and hence the new president won't belong to either party. Due to the terrible presidency of Hollande, the traditional splintering of the left-wing vote and Fillon's 'fake jobs' scandal, it's not only Marine Le Pen who makes it into the second round, which was more or less expected, but also Emmanuel Macron, running as a centrist with a party created on the spot.

In many ways you could say this is a good thing, forcing both of France's major parties to stop taking their power for granted and pay more attention to the many French who feel their voices aren't being heard. But Macron's background is about as elitist as they come, and considering he never held elective office before nor has much in the way of a party behind him (next month are the parliamentary elections - Macron's party may get some seats here and there but nothing remotely resembling a majority), it would be extremely challenging for him to govern in a way that really changes the status-quo in any significant way, assuming he even really wants to.

Marine Le Pen and her Front National are still not offering more than simplistic populist slogans and borderline racism; they don't deserve a chance in power, nor will they get one (and no, that's not hubris comparable to the complacency before Brexit or the American election; the polls have her down by 25 percentage points or more, that's not a margin you come back from in two weeks). But all the same, many of their voters are simply people whose voices aren't being heard and whose concerns about immigration and being left out are ignored - and looking at the immediate barrage of declarations from both left- and right-wing politicians tonight that of course they reject the FN and will vote for Macron, it doesn't look like much will change in that regard.

There's a lot of comparisons being made between Trump and Le Pen, but I don't think that's very accurate, and in fact it's unfair to both of them for different reasons (Trump's views are less borderline racist and less economically unsound than Le Pen's; but on the other hand, she is an actual politician with established principles and policies, and she can actually relate to the people she represents, not being a billionaire). But certainly the comparison holds to the extent that they represent people who feel left out of the self-congratulating consensus of the political mainstream, and want to shake things up. In that sense, Macron's victory in two weeks' time will only be a real victory if he manages to do better than his predecessors to tackle those people's concerns, despite his precarious starting position - an extremely tall order.

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So it will be Macron vs Le Pen after all - 23/04/2017 09:42:37 PM 945 Views
Is this April 2002 or April 2017 - 23/04/2017 11:56:40 PM 590 Views
Yeah, not really that similar. - 24/04/2017 07:08:52 AM 594 Views
Le Pen vs. the Lightweight - 24/04/2017 03:29:21 AM 592 Views
Macron will win. - 24/04/2017 03:17:32 PM 570 Views
France might make history, here - 24/04/2017 08:15:55 PM 570 Views
Argentina did this first in the 1970s - 24/04/2017 10:58:13 PM 598 Views
???? Of course - 24/04/2017 11:11:03 PM 535 Views
And Le Pen the day after pulls a publicity stunt *NM* - 24/04/2017 10:38:31 PM 362 Views
Eventually Le Pen will win. Or someone like her. - 24/04/2017 11:30:44 PM 537 Views
In the fullness of time we are all dead - 25/04/2017 01:22:54 AM 532 Views
I expect to the populist/anti-establishment trend to continue - 25/04/2017 09:24:38 PM 682 Views
It will. This is the shakey start. - 27/04/2017 09:31:57 AM 459 Views
Start? The start over here was back in 1991. - 27/04/2017 07:13:46 PM 622 Views
I know what you mean, and I am not up on all my modem history - 27/04/2017 08:30:11 PM 516 Views
2000, then. - 27/04/2017 09:04:39 PM 669 Views
I'm not gonna argue! - 27/04/2017 11:27:00 PM 755 Views
Re: So it will be Macron vs Le Pen after all - 27/04/2017 09:29:26 AM 505 Views
Yes. Rechecked them just now... - 27/04/2017 06:53:52 PM 660 Views
Good. - 27/04/2017 01:19:26 PM 551 Views

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