Great post.....
One of my alumni buddies from RU is a former Navy Seal and was in Afghan for 3 years.....here is his take:
To me it has always boiled down to Pakistan. If you want to achieve anything more than us doing bombing runs every few months, you need Pakistan's unwavering cooperation. It seems to be getting better, but I'm afraid it might be too little too late. They needed to choke off the passage ways from Afghanistan into Pakistan. At that point, Spec Ops hunter killer teams could have inflicted serious damage on the "upper management" of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Instead, they were able to regroup in Pakistan and create chaos over there as well. Now, you have a Pakistan citizenry either scared shitless or riled up to support extremism. That is a country in total flux.
Back to Pakistan. We need to define the objective. If the objective is to create a legit government that will at best be a friend and at worst will not harbor our enemies; expect to be there for the next 200 years. I'll put it to you this way. You would have rather been in New Orleans 24 hours after Katrina blew through, than live in present day Afghanistan. It is that bad there. They don't have the money, educated populace or security force to change that on their own.
One of my alumni buddies from RU is a former Navy Seal and was in Afghan for 3 years.....here is his take:
To me it has always boiled down to Pakistan. If you want to achieve anything more than us doing bombing runs every few months, you need Pakistan's unwavering cooperation. It seems to be getting better, but I'm afraid it might be too little too late. They needed to choke off the passage ways from Afghanistan into Pakistan. At that point, Spec Ops hunter killer teams could have inflicted serious damage on the "upper management" of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Instead, they were able to regroup in Pakistan and create chaos over there as well. Now, you have a Pakistan citizenry either scared shitless or riled up to support extremism. That is a country in total flux.
Back to Pakistan. We need to define the objective. If the objective is to create a legit government that will at best be a friend and at worst will not harbor our enemies; expect to be there for the next 200 years. I'll put it to you this way. You would have rather been in New Orleans 24 hours after Katrina blew through, than live in present day Afghanistan. It is that bad there. They don't have the money, educated populace or security force to change that on their own.
One must either drastically increase troops in Afghanistan or completely withdraw from the nation. While Pakistan is such a porous border with Afghanistan and until that border is completely secure, there is no point in continuing in Afghanistan. Furthermore, Pakistan is one of the main problems and should be a greater focal point for pressure/troops/bombings if the goal is to stabilize the region. But Pakistan is our "ally". With allies like that, who needs enemies?
Obama is proving seriously "wimpy" on the international stage. All words and no actions. His goal to close Guantanamo Bay within 1 year is going how? All words, no actions. His goals in Afghanistan? Where are the additional troops. Poor Gates. He is quite effective. Unfortunately for him Obama, his boss, is not.
Obama is proving seriously "wimpy" on the international stage. All words and no actions. His goal to close Guantanamo Bay within 1 year is going how? All words, no actions. His goals in Afghanistan? Where are the additional troops. Poor Gates. He is quite effective. Unfortunately for him Obama, his boss, is not.
*MySmiley*
More troops to Afghan - what will Obama do?
05/10/2009 04:02:29 PM
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The current situtation is untenable.
05/10/2009 04:59:50 PM
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Definitely untenable - go all in or get out
05/10/2009 05:08:05 PM
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We have to tread carefully with Pakistan
06/10/2009 05:55:19 AM
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Carefully thought through for how many more years of destabilization and death?
06/10/2009 03:44:58 PM
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Destabilization and death has been going on for decades in Afghanistan...
07/10/2009 07:35:00 AM
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I think Congo might think their civil war is the most savage . . .
07/10/2009 01:16:28 PM
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Obama is trapped by his own rhetoric
05/10/2009 05:28:43 PM
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One quick thing.....
05/10/2009 07:10:28 PM
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Not sure I agree
05/10/2009 07:32:35 PM
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Well...
05/10/2009 07:49:29 PM
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Missed my point a bit/or I was unclear, but I think we agree.....
05/10/2009 08:13:54 PM
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Pulling out now would be bad because...
06/10/2009 12:26:28 AM
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Hooaahh!! Another for the green
06/10/2009 12:34:20 AM
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Well...
06/10/2009 01:18:43 AM
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It's tricky
06/10/2009 03:47:27 AM
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Actually, HUMINT is one of the fastest promoting MOS's in the Army
06/10/2009 03:55:15 AM
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Re: Actually, HUMINT is one of the fastest promoting MOS's in the Army
06/10/2009 04:03:14 AM
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how old are you?
06/10/2009 12:40:22 AM
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Screw your top off jarhead, he's ours
06/10/2009 12:46:20 AM
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what does the army have in common with bannas?
06/10/2009 03:58:07 AM
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Hooah *NM*
06/10/2009 12:55:04 AM
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I'll give you one back one day when I earn the right to say it.
*NM*
07/10/2009 02:35:01 AM
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He sends more troops in and wins the Nobel prize. Up is down, left is right. *NM*
09/10/2009 11:12:27 PM
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