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Roberto Alamar should have been a shoe-in. His awards and numbers were always great. *NM* Bryce Send a noteboard - 10/01/2010 05:52:38 PM
75% is needed for induction.

2010 Baseball Hall of Fame Vote
Player Votes Pct.
Andre Dawson 420 77.9
Bert Blyleven 400 74.2
Roberto Alomar 397 73.7
Jack Morris 282 52.3
Barry Larkin 278 51.6
Lee Smith 255 47.3
Edgar Martinez 195 36.2
Tim Raines 164 30.4
Mark McGwire 128 23.7
Alan Trammell 121 22.4
Fred McGriff 116 21.5
Don Mattingly 87 16.1
Dave Parker 82 15.2
Dale Murphy 63 11.7
Harold Baines 33 6.1
Andres Galarraga 22 4.1
Robin Ventura 7 1.3
Ellis Burks 2 0.4
Eric Karros 2 0.4
Kevin Appier 1 0.2
Pat Hentgen 1 0.2
David Segui 1 0.2


This will not include an anaylsis of the players' stats. This rant is geared toward those of you who already have an understanding of baseball and its history, and a knowledge of the players involved.

I'll start with the one who did get elected: Andre Dawson. Just of the top of my head, I'd say he's a borderline HoFer. I'd have to research him to say yea or nay, but I won't argue his wothiness.

Bert Blyleven: Snubbed again. A long, very good career, with numbers to support him. I just don't get why he hasn't been in the HoF for years now.

Robert Alomar: To me, he's a sure-thing HoFer. One of the top five (if not top three) second basemen of all-time. Yeah, he'll probably get in next year, but why not now? Because he spit on an umpire ONCE? What, is not electing him punishment for THAT? I sure as hell hope not. It just doesn't make sense. (Just so everyone's aware, I know that no player has ever gotten 100%, not Ruth, or Williams, or Henderson, etc. I think that's moronic, but that's another subject.)

Jack Morris: This one they got right. I'm amazed that anyone thinks that one very good season, and one fantastic World Series game, makes him worthy. He was above average for a long time, mostly an innings-eater, but he was never more than that for nearly long enough.

Tim Raines, Barry Larkin and Mark McGwire: I can see all of them not getting elected on the first ballot. They all need to have their careers analyzed, but it's been long enough for that for all of them. They should all have been elected, especially Raines and Larkin.

Alan Trammel and Dale Murphy: I think Trammel should be in. He's much like Raines, Larkin and McGwire. Murphy, I think of like Dawson. I'd have to take a good look at his numbers. But when you think of players like Dawson, and Jim Rice (elected last year) and Tony Perez, one has to wonder, what's makes them worthy and Trammel and Murphy not worthy.

Martinez and Baines: Pretty much career DHs. Do DHs deserve the same kind of consideration that guys who play the field do? That's a tough one, but I have to ultimately say, yes. It's just the way the game is now. But if all that can be judged is their hitting, they need to be GREAT hitters. Martinez: I really want to say yes, but I'm still undecided. Baines: I think he falls just short.

But here's the thing. Someone voted for David Segui?! Someone actually looked (I assume) at David Segui's career and said to his/herself, "David Segui belongs in the Hall of Fame." I'm sorry but, no. Anyone with an inkling of baseball knowledge, SHOULD immediately discard Segui out of hand. There's not even a reason to debate it. It's beyond comprehension that he should get a single vote. He was never even the best player on his own team. This makes me more frustrated than players not getting elected that should.

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Baseball HOF results: My sort-of rant. - 09/01/2010 08:03:34 PM 405 Views
Re: Baseball HOF results: My sort-of rant. - 10/01/2010 03:17:29 AM 323 Views
Alan Trammel has no business in the HoF. That is from a Tigers fan in Detroit. *NM* - 10/01/2010 04:08:11 AM 162 Views
Excellent. Tell me why. *NM* - 10/01/2010 05:39:56 PM 123 Views
i would also like to hear this reasoning - 10/01/2010 06:06:38 PM 315 Views
Quite simple. - 10/01/2010 08:06:05 PM 330 Views
You make a nice argument. - 11/01/2010 05:59:20 PM 313 Views
Roberto Alamar should have been a shoe-in. His awards and numbers were always great. *NM* - 10/01/2010 05:52:38 PM 165 Views
maybe segui gets a vote and voted for himself? - 10/01/2010 06:12:41 PM 314 Views
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i understand how the voting works, and yes i was being facetious - 11/01/2010 06:43:43 PM 322 Views
I am SOOOOO with you on most of this. - 11/01/2010 06:12:43 AM 294 Views
a few thoughts... - 12/01/2010 04:13:49 PM 375 Views
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