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Aha. Elaine Send a noteboard - 15/01/2010 01:37:44 PM
That makes them "tough" and makes them crumbier due to the fat being too well-distributed. like short Bread. Just like pie crust or other pastry, the layers come from the pieces of butter.

Wow, I dunno if that makes sense. Since I've never made scones myself, I can't really say. But I know that whenever I've messed up biscuits, that's why/how.


I never cut butter into anything, I've always rubbed it in with my fingers. I do not have cold hands, so I believe we have an answer. I need a pastry cutter, and I need to not be obsessive about crumb size. Big chunks of butter to remain intact, preferably cold from the fridge. Gotcha.
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What is the most American meal, iyo? nossy - 14/01/2010 01:28:37 PM 1885 Views
well BESIDES burgers LadyLorraine - 14/01/2010 01:35:12 PM 1259 Views
it doesn't bother me nossy - 14/01/2010 01:40:23 PM 1208 Views
The only reason you can get a hamburger anywhere LadyLorraine - 14/01/2010 01:45:18 PM 1189 Views
Your prerogative. Told you you could use burger, but that it was a waste. *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 01:47:31 PM 679 Views
If one can get a burger anywhere, how does it make it less American? Tom - 14/01/2010 02:59:12 PM 1183 Views
I'm fine with it being the quintessential american food nossy - 14/01/2010 03:01:48 PM 1180 Views
So then why didn't you structure the question differently? Tom - 14/01/2010 05:00:36 PM 1028 Views
Because I didn't care to. And I still wouldn't. nossy - 14/01/2010 05:53:23 PM 1192 Views
Gravy and biscuits. I don't really know what that is, but it's very American. Rebekah - 14/01/2010 01:36:57 PM 1243 Views
I'll have to make it for you! nossy - 14/01/2010 01:39:08 PM 1176 Views
...that is gross. LadyLorraine - 14/01/2010 01:45:53 PM 1111 Views
It was a play on words. Sareitha Sedai - 14/01/2010 02:00:54 PM 1143 Views
To be fair snoopcester - 14/01/2010 02:30:26 PM 1212 Views
I actually thought of that too. Sareitha Sedai - 14/01/2010 03:16:34 PM 1265 Views
Oooh. Is it tasty? Rebekah - 14/01/2010 01:46:37 PM 1357 Views
Real ones are ridiculously yummy nossy - 14/01/2010 01:48:55 PM 1183 Views
Sadly snoopcester - 14/01/2010 02:28:59 PM 1178 Views
Mark - 14/01/2010 03:40:13 PM 1278 Views
Not sweet scones, clearly! nossy - 14/01/2010 03:43:58 PM 1255 Views
Still Mark - 14/01/2010 04:04:34 PM 1067 Views
Re: Still TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 04:07:50 PM 1204 Views
Ok, I know this is not that strange. nossy - 14/01/2010 05:59:37 PM 1109 Views
Re: Ok, I know this is not that strange. TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 11:20:56 PM 1199 Views
Wait till they hear what my dad did with syrup and butter.... Joel - 16/01/2010 12:04:10 AM 1238 Views
Yeesh. nossy - 16/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 1082 Views
It's VERY good. Joel - 17/01/2010 02:22:18 AM 1262 Views
Mmmmm.. Kel - 14/01/2010 04:45:30 PM 1170 Views
Biscuits and gravy is my favorite breakfast food! aria - 14/01/2010 08:53:22 PM 1281 Views
I've wondered what the hell that is tehanu - 15/01/2010 07:43:25 AM 1050 Views
It's a savory bread, not a sweet one. Ghavrel - 15/01/2010 07:44:56 AM 985 Views
So American biscuits = bread? tehanu - 15/01/2010 07:49:27 AM 1201 Views
See my reply snoopcester - 15/01/2010 09:27:50 AM 1284 Views
Re: See my reply tehanu - 15/01/2010 02:13:02 PM 1259 Views
Re: See my reply snoopcester - 15/01/2010 02:55:55 PM 1217 Views
Crazy mixed up people tehanu - 15/01/2010 03:06:45 PM 1300 Views
I know! snoopcester - 15/01/2010 03:18:02 PM 1249 Views
you can see the difference in this wiki link. nossy - 15/01/2010 11:14:03 AM 1266 Views
Ah... tehanu - 15/01/2010 02:19:18 PM 1233 Views
Re: Ah... Avendesora - 15/01/2010 02:58:42 PM 1137 Views
I'll just have to take your word for it. tehanu - 15/01/2010 03:11:05 PM 1143 Views
If it helps, it's not a watery gravy. It's very thick and creamy. nossy - 15/01/2010 03:42:32 PM 1208 Views
No, sorry tehanu - 17/01/2010 11:59:02 AM 1191 Views
Peanuts and hot dogs at a baseball game is a pretty american meal *NM* callandor1000 - 14/01/2010 01:47:20 PM 538 Views
ohhh! you inspired me! Noss! I have the truest American Food!! LadyLorraine - 14/01/2010 01:48:34 PM 1229 Views
Exactly. nossy - 14/01/2010 01:50:19 PM 1155 Views
Jelly=Jello elsewhere, I have learned. LadyLorraine - 14/01/2010 01:57:27 PM 1166 Views
Yeah. I probably should say jam, but I'm a rebel. *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 01:58:47 PM 672 Views
Jam/=jelly. Joel - 15/01/2010 10:10:56 PM 1163 Views
That's no food... ironclad - 14/01/2010 02:08:08 PM 1262 Views
White bread, of course. nossy - 14/01/2010 02:14:19 PM 1168 Views
anything you can order from your car *NM* random thoughts - 14/01/2010 01:52:22 PM 624 Views
Huge sandwiches and subs ironclad - 14/01/2010 02:03:26 PM 1084 Views
Is that your version of the truth? nossy - 14/01/2010 02:07:20 PM 1209 Views
peanutbutter and jelly sandwitch Camilla - 14/01/2010 02:12:16 PM 1217 Views
Sand Witches are quite scary. nossy - 14/01/2010 02:15:11 PM 1182 Views
They are Camilla - 14/01/2010 02:16:50 PM 1150 Views
Having witnessed your first mistake ever, at least I consider you human now *NM* ironclad - 14/01/2010 02:18:47 PM 603 Views
It might be a whatchamacallit Camilla - 14/01/2010 02:19:58 PM 1156 Views
Dread? It doesn't inspire nearly as much dread as pickled fish or marmite. *NM* Avendesora - 14/01/2010 02:40:13 PM 666 Views
I had not heard of that before Camilla - 14/01/2010 02:41:42 PM 1233 Views
pickled fish is not very tasty, but it is not that gross... jh - 14/01/2010 05:46:28 PM 1082 Views
It's quite good; ask Lene about it. Joel - 15/01/2010 10:13:56 PM 1200 Views
They do not make grape jelly/jam/preserves/conserves here. I know. nossy - 16/01/2010 03:15:18 PM 1149 Views
Horror! Do they at least have strawberry? Joel - 17/01/2010 02:20:37 AM 1198 Views
Pork chops and mashed taters. Tigr - 14/01/2010 02:16:33 PM 1199 Views
White Castle! snoopcester - 14/01/2010 02:33:23 PM 1112 Views
Steamed burgers? nossy - 14/01/2010 02:37:12 PM 1106 Views
I dunno, I've never been there snoopcester - 14/01/2010 02:39:33 PM 1206 Views
Holy hell. I just came so close to locking myself out of the flat. ¬panic¬ nossy - 14/01/2010 02:44:51 PM 1191 Views
Wowzers! snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:03:48 PM 1110 Views
I know. nossy - 14/01/2010 03:14:58 PM 1084 Views
You need to be more careful! snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:22:24 PM 1150 Views
Clearly. nossy - 14/01/2010 03:33:03 PM 1131 Views
Re: Clearly. TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:37:39 PM 1137 Views
I'm not telling you, perve! *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 03:38:58 PM 628 Views
Perv? TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:56:59 PM 1185 Views
Re: Clearly. snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:38:04 PM 1129 Views
I actually did that the other day Floffe - 14/01/2010 03:38:35 PM 1275 Views
You almost locked yourself out of my flat? snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:40:10 PM 1145 Views
Re: You almost locked yourself out of my flat? TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:42:32 PM 1218 Views
Re: You almost locked yourself out of my flat? snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:45:48 PM 1105 Views
Now wouldn't you just love to know? Floffe - 14/01/2010 03:43:41 PM 1207 Views
snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:52:16 PM 967 Views
Re: Floffe - 14/01/2010 06:12:51 PM 1069 Views
White castle is beyond nasty. *NM* Avendesora - 14/01/2010 02:43:23 PM 607 Views
Crazy person. They have the best fries. *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 02:51:21 PM 505 Views
Re: White Castle! callandor1000 - 15/01/2010 06:15:41 PM 1262 Views
Gumbo or jambalaya, maybe barbecue chicken? Definitely Chicken and biscuits. Avendesora - 14/01/2010 02:38:51 PM 1231 Views
Did she just write you on Facebook to answer like this? ironclad - 14/01/2010 02:47:12 PM 1176 Views
Haha! I haven't logged onto facebook at all this morning. But I will, just to check. *NM* Avendesora - 14/01/2010 02:48:17 PM 653 Views
pft nossy - 14/01/2010 02:49:50 PM 1170 Views
Uh huh sure ironclad - 14/01/2010 02:54:14 PM 1258 Views
You're just jealous you don't get to try it. *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 02:56:42 PM 621 Views
rofl @ strange similar letter combinations XD Avendesora - 14/01/2010 02:56:48 PM 1126 Views
btw, here's a link to a recipe. Avendesora - 14/01/2010 03:01:07 PM 1529 Views
Re: Gumbo or jambalaya nossy - 14/01/2010 02:48:31 PM 1127 Views
clearly your amercian work ethic is sliding. *NM* Avendesora - 14/01/2010 02:49:33 PM 631 Views
That's in about three states. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/01/2010 05:18:04 AM 631 Views
but oh-so-tasty! nossy - 15/01/2010 11:16:06 AM 1135 Views
Still definitely not mainstream American. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/01/2010 02:00:24 AM 617 Views
But it IS burgers and fries. Tom - 14/01/2010 02:56:35 PM 1115 Views
Why did I not think of grilled steak and a baked potato! *NM* Avendesora - 14/01/2010 03:04:03 PM 592 Views
Because neither of those is exactly exclusive to america. nossy - 14/01/2010 03:08:23 PM 1290 Views
Can't go wrong with steak and a potato (or sweet potato). *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:11:31 PM 622 Views
Or a Philly cheese steak sandwich, or New York style pizza, or Buffalo wings Tom - 14/01/2010 05:05:03 PM 1080 Views
you could argue that some of those are regional though LadyLorraine - 14/01/2010 05:09:55 PM 1039 Views
It doesn't matter. No other country can lay claim to them. Tom - 14/01/2010 05:44:32 PM 1130 Views
OMG mmm, Philly cheesesteak. *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 05:55:06 PM 614 Views
All excellently delicious examples. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 11:22:39 PM 633 Views
Mmmm Reuben sandwich. *drools* *NM* Avendesora - 15/01/2010 12:13:19 AM 607 Views
Burger and fries Maria - 14/01/2010 02:56:55 PM 1251 Views
Maybe you're not impressed because you've been eating only the burgers and fries? nossy - 14/01/2010 03:04:39 PM 1230 Views
I have this figured out now. Avendesora - 14/01/2010 03:07:02 PM 1232 Views
Meatloaf and mashed potatoes. Sareitha Sedai - 14/01/2010 03:18:57 PM 1252 Views
snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:23:41 PM 953 Views
Yeah. Sareitha Sedai - 14/01/2010 03:25:43 PM 1205 Views
I'll go on record as saying that I LOVE meatloaf with ketchup and mashed potatoes. nossy - 14/01/2010 03:29:00 PM 1204 Views
Re: I'll go on record as saying that I LOVE meatloaf with ketchup and mashed potatoes. TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:30:40 PM 1271 Views
Re: I'll go on record as saying that I LOVE meatloaf with ketchup and mashed potatoes. snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:35:11 PM 1122 Views
I think you made her point snoopcester - 14/01/2010 03:36:15 PM 1115 Views
Meatloaf is gross. TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:33:30 PM 1146 Views
Wha? nossy - 14/01/2010 03:38:11 PM 1130 Views
Re: Wha? TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:40:56 PM 1305 Views
Whoever's been making meatloaf for you clearly doesn't know how to cook. nossy - 14/01/2010 03:47:37 PM 1304 Views
I've had it prepared by several different people. I am an anti-fan. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 03:50:12 PM 664 Views
I'm still dubious, but I suppose I must accept that. *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 03:55:26 PM 601 Views
Yes, you must. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 04:10:41 PM 602 Views
You just haven't had it with enough bacon. *NM* jh - 14/01/2010 05:50:48 PM 619 Views
Jack is very picky. Sassy463 - 16/01/2010 01:30:26 AM 1109 Views
Sounds like it. nossy - 16/01/2010 03:10:38 PM 1313 Views
Well, I've never seen Grits outside the USA. Apparently it's a southern thing. Tim - 14/01/2010 03:32:55 PM 1252 Views
They are grody. Or have been when I've had them. nossy - 14/01/2010 03:40:49 PM 1157 Views
Dude, I love grits. Put a little bit of butter in 'em and they're awesome! Mats Gambling Buddy - 14/01/2010 03:57:30 PM 1200 Views
How does a Southern California boy like yourself manage to sample grits? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 04:08:51 PM 629 Views
You can buy them at the grocery store ßelals Girl - 14/01/2010 08:40:54 PM 920 Views
You've got to have personal inclination or have someone make them for you, though. TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 11:24:13 PM 1124 Views
Hah, you just said "grody". I haven't heard that since the 1980s. *NM* Tom - 14/01/2010 05:06:09 PM 644 Views
I would have to say... Mats Gambling Buddy - 14/01/2010 03:58:44 PM 1133 Views
Indeed. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 04:09:12 PM 681 Views
I'm gonna go with Meatloaf, with a side of Peanut and Jam sandwiches, washed down with a watery beer Mark - 14/01/2010 04:08:18 PM 1263 Views
I like how you threw in the beer insult. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 04:10:24 PM 604 Views
? snoopcester - 14/01/2010 04:24:44 PM 1017 Views
What if they are one and the same? Mark - 14/01/2010 04:42:09 PM 1173 Views
His scene in Rocky Horror Picture Show lead to a similar result. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 11:25:08 PM 597 Views
Meatloaf is rather universal, you know. The rest is typically american, though. *NM* jh - 14/01/2010 05:54:34 PM 663 Views
Nachos Brian - 14/01/2010 04:20:24 PM 1162 Views
Boiled Peanuts Kel - 14/01/2010 04:41:49 PM 1101 Views
Deep fried turkey with peanutbutter on top. *NM* jh - 14/01/2010 05:43:27 PM 639 Views
You just made that up. nossy - 14/01/2010 05:58:06 PM 1077 Views
There's a fair chance some part of america makes it *NM* jh - 14/01/2010 06:03:13 PM 615 Views
There's a place in New York that does fried turkey with all sorts of weird stuff on it... Brian - 14/01/2010 07:37:51 PM 1253 Views
why is frying a turkey Yick? random thoughts - 15/01/2010 02:08:46 PM 1165 Views
That's a LOT of oil. nossy - 16/01/2010 03:07:10 PM 1152 Views
corn dog. curly fries. strawberry shake. *NM* Animosity - 14/01/2010 06:15:04 PM 676 Views
Corndogs just reminded me of chicken fried steak. Did we make that? *NM* nossy - 14/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 579 Views
I hope not. I'd not like to take credit for that travesty of flavor. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/01/2010 11:26:07 PM 709 Views
According to wikipedia you are in the clear... snoopcester - 15/01/2010 09:29:55 AM 1111 Views
Yeah, but you won't catch us apologizing for chicken fried steak. Joel - 15/01/2010 10:18:58 PM 1117 Views
A good chicken fried steak is a thing of beauty. *NM* Brian - 15/01/2010 10:39:07 PM 601 Views
McDonalds. *NM* Trigger - 14/01/2010 06:30:20 PM 769 Views
A massive heart-attack inducing steak Monkey - 14/01/2010 07:59:18 PM 1085 Views
I am going to vote barbecue. Real barbecue. Elaine - 14/01/2010 09:21:39 PM 1155 Views
Hieshyn - 14/01/2010 09:41:01 PM 1081 Views
for your biscuits, you probably cut the fat in too much. Avendesora - 15/01/2010 12:19:00 AM 1172 Views
Or let the butter melt....cold butter is quite important in my experience Brian - 15/01/2010 12:58:09 AM 1259 Views
Yeah. Largish lumps of cold butter do best. nossy - 15/01/2010 11:17:08 AM 1313 Views
I am going to find this difficult Elaine - 15/01/2010 01:39:47 PM 1268 Views
After you get it right, you'll be amazed how easy they are after that... Brian - 15/01/2010 06:25:41 PM 1478 Views
Aha. Elaine - 15/01/2010 01:37:44 PM 1246 Views
You can use a fork. Avendesora - 15/01/2010 03:36:45 PM 1243 Views
Oh yeah... MightyYT - 14/01/2010 09:24:55 PM 1170 Views
Best post I've read in a long time. *NM* StarrBecca - 14/01/2010 11:39:32 PM 641 Views
Deep-dish pizza BlackAdder - 15/01/2010 02:02:56 AM 1192 Views
MMM! Have you been to Geno's East? nossy - 15/01/2010 11:17:52 AM 1311 Views
Yup, they're great. Also Lou Malnati's *NM* BlackAdder - 16/01/2010 04:13:55 AM 1250 Views
But...but... tehanu - 15/01/2010 07:41:30 AM 1263 Views
No, you're right. nossy - 15/01/2010 11:19:03 AM 1166 Views
Lucky you have more imaginative people here then tehanu - 15/01/2010 02:21:52 PM 1197 Views
GODDAMNIT I just lost my REALLY long reply re: the "but that's regional" response. Avendesora - 15/01/2010 02:52:18 PM 1196 Views
Book me in tehanu - 15/01/2010 03:18:01 PM 1185 Views
Sorry... Avendesora - 15/01/2010 03:19:54 PM 1112 Views
Steak, potatoes, a vegetable, bread. *NM* Palatine - 15/01/2010 06:16:02 PM 648 Views
Pizza and Beer. *NM* Captain Spaulding - 18/01/2010 03:41:44 PM 650 Views
We're The Melting Pot, so use a kettle and your imagination. *NM* Zalis - 18/01/2010 05:23:56 PM 705 Views
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