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I don't think their bias is their problem random thoughts Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 02:57:33 AM
It is a center right country so it is hardly surprising that the only center right TV news show rates the highest. What is really more shocking to me is the other networks are so willing to allow Fox half the country uncontested while they fight with the Daily Show for the other half. I find it kinda of sad because with the exception of a few shows Fox is not a very good news source. I keep expecting on of the other news channels to step up and challenge Fox but they all seem to be racing to their left. CNN keeps acting like they want to but can't seem to pull the trigger.

That is a good point - the reason their news reporting sucks in the first place is that they seem to cater to the viewers' whims far too much, offering the news people want to see instead of that which they need to see, but then on the point of ideological bias, suddenly they ignore that fact you mention of there being more room for another channel on the right than on the left, i.e. of viewers wanting more center-right bias.


They are no more biased then most and less biased then say MSNBC. I think what makes them a mediocre news source is that they treat news as entertainment. The other news channels do it as well but Fox is more successful at it.

When I talk about bias I am talking about the actual news shows Hannity or Beck or any of the other morons they have on during prime time. The morning show I think is the worst since they actually bill that as a news show. The stuff between the morning show and prime time actually isn't that bad and I like Chris Wallace.

I think given the choice most people would claim to want unbiased news but since that really isn't and option most people choose a news source whose bias most closely resembles their own. Biases are much more noticeable and less tolerable when they differ from your own.

Most of the people with strong opinions of Fox News never actually watch it but instead they base their opinion on a few clips which are typically form the opinion portion of the programming. The actual news shows really are no worse then anything else out there and are often actually more balanced on their panels.

I expect so, yeah. I haven't seen remotely enough of any of them to reach a balanced judgement, myself - spent some time watching TV when I was over there a couple weeks ago, but not the news so much. Most of the anti-Fox comments do focus on pundits like O'Reilly (who I don't mind so much) and Hannity, more than on their actual news broadcasts. Of course, what I've seen of actual Fox news broadcasts did leave me distinctly underwhelmed, but I've no reason to assume the others are any better. Way too much focus on crime and random local stories, way too little on foreign news, those are problems that all your news broadcasts have, it seems. It's one of the distinct advantages of having a strong public broadcasting company, imho - not only is their own news decent, but they force their commercial rivals to offer something comparable.


Can't argue with any that. I can't watch the local news except for weather and sports. All of the cable news shows have good parts and bad parts. For all of my criticism of MSNBC its morning show is the only news show I watch regularly and CNN has the best international coverage by far. I get most of my international news from the BBC.
This message last edited by random thoughts on 27/01/2010 at 03:14:01 AM
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Fox is most trusted name in news - 27/01/2010 12:11:15 AM 736 Views
Good thing reality is chosen through consensus. *NM* - 27/01/2010 12:17:17 AM 167 Views
umm it is survey on trust - 27/01/2010 12:47:04 AM 331 Views
Of course it's an accurate poll. But my point is that trust has nothing to do with accuracy. *NM* - 27/01/2010 01:14:59 AM 138 Views
do you have any real evidience that Fox is less acurate? - 27/01/2010 01:28:22 AM 303 Views
Does the poll suggest otherwise? - 27/01/2010 02:32:14 AM 294 Views
well... - 27/01/2010 12:37:40 AM 299 Views
Good for Fox. - 27/01/2010 12:38:39 AM 339 Views
Not really that surprising - 27/01/2010 01:00:52 AM 358 Views
Well, I did say it was remarkable particularly for foreigners. - 27/01/2010 01:58:43 AM 353 Views
I don't think their bias is their problem - 27/01/2010 02:57:33 AM 418 Views
I've always liked ABC's World News Tonight. - 27/01/2010 03:44:59 AM 298 Views
Jim Lehrer, definetly *NM* - 27/01/2010 04:11:17 AM 145 Views
That would be my most trusted TV news source. - 27/01/2010 07:22:51 AM 288 Views
I don't watch much PBS news - 27/01/2010 02:04:12 PM 299 Views
Yes, but The NewsHour has been criticized for being too conservative. *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:01:32 PM 241 Views
well there are people who think Nancy Pelosi is to conserative *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:13:56 PM 181 Views
Re: Not really that surprising - 27/01/2010 06:18:34 PM 288 Views
I am sad for this country after hearing this. *NM* - 27/01/2010 01:45:18 AM 239 Views
Re: Fox is most trusted name in news - 27/01/2010 02:51:04 AM 408 Views
Precisely. *NM* - 27/01/2010 11:26:15 AM 147 Views
A generation ago, the only news channel on TV was CNN. - 27/01/2010 06:20:07 PM 300 Views
Hmmm....now here's the question: - 27/01/2010 03:10:02 AM 308 Views
PPP has a poor record - 27/01/2010 05:01:57 AM 310 Views
And CNN is SECOND?!!! What a badly broken poll.... - 27/01/2010 07:16:09 AM 291 Views
It would be interesting to see how that breaks down by party - 27/01/2010 12:09:51 PM 316 Views
the article does break it down by party - 27/01/2010 02:06:50 PM 306 Views
Only for FOX, which makes trying to analyse it impossible - 27/01/2010 02:51:46 PM 309 Views
here is a link to the full results - 27/01/2010 03:02:50 PM 400 Views
So the parties are pretty much going each way - 27/01/2010 04:19:59 PM 304 Views
Re: So the parties are pretty much going each way - 27/01/2010 04:36:08 PM 285 Views
I guess it makes sense - 27/01/2010 11:33:25 PM 290 Views
It does - 28/01/2010 12:09:14 PM 279 Views
They also treat them like a single group which I find ironic - 30/01/2010 05:40:28 PM 283 Views
I personally think both sides are wrong - 27/01/2010 04:40:36 PM 285 Views
Besides the fact who wins or loses, it's a very sad state of affairs for democracy... - 27/01/2010 01:15:34 PM 285 Views
Skepticism is usually a good sign in a democracy - 27/01/2010 02:18:58 PM 472 Views
Re: Skepticism is usually a good sign in a democracy - 28/01/2010 03:42:55 AM 437 Views
Well, at least Fox is better than the BBC - 27/01/2010 01:43:32 PM 298 Views
I'm fairly certain you don't really mean that... - 27/01/2010 05:33:47 PM 320 Views
One does wonder. - 27/01/2010 05:52:30 PM 310 Views
Re: One does wonder. - 28/01/2010 04:28:47 AM 292 Views
Re: One does wonder. - 28/01/2010 12:12:48 PM 289 Views
haha you got me. Though I do mean it. - 30/01/2010 12:36:03 AM 298 Views
Well, that's me unsurprised. - 27/01/2010 02:23:16 PM 315 Views
Re: Well, that's me unsurprised. - 27/01/2010 02:31:57 PM 284 Views
Re: Well, that's me unsurprised. - 27/01/2010 02:53:04 PM 290 Views
It was the most watched cable channel last week - 27/01/2010 03:08:36 PM 289 Views
You can't offend me by saying that. - 27/01/2010 03:23:26 PM 278 Views
I know - 27/01/2010 04:23:18 PM 307 Views
I almost said something earlier. - 27/01/2010 06:34:18 PM 266 Views
Was the poll done in a trailerpark where everyone was their own uncle? - 27/01/2010 06:59:01 PM 329 Views
I think the same thing everytime I see European TV - 27/01/2010 08:13:13 PM 277 Views
Re: Was the poll done in a trailerpark where everyone was their own uncle? - 28/01/2010 03:49:10 AM 265 Views
That's like saying so-and-so won a Grammy. - 27/01/2010 07:39:54 PM 258 Views
That's like going a high security prison for a visit - 28/01/2010 03:38:45 AM 279 Views
telephone polls are no longer an accurate representation of popular opinion - 28/01/2010 04:12:52 AM 255 Views
I verbally abuse people who call to poll me. I'm going to keep doing it. - 28/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 351 Views
funny how people suddenly dismiss polls when they say something they don't like - 28/01/2010 05:57:10 AM 283 Views
Funnily, the first person who did that is Issac who has seemed a right wing type to me. - 28/01/2010 12:19:05 PM 288 Views
I there is nothing wrong with questioning what a poll tells us - 28/01/2010 02:02:29 PM 294 Views
Those where the only type of replies I saw though - 28/01/2010 02:24:55 PM 268 Views
I made it a comment to main thread for a reason - 28/01/2010 04:22:14 PM 272 Views
Isaac, not Issac - 30/01/2010 07:10:20 AM 274 Views
Bah, I only have your word for that being how your spell your name - 01/02/2010 01:08:24 PM 389 Views
It's pretty much the only Anglic spelling of it - 01/02/2010 02:15:45 PM 328 Views
I would have complained about the telephony regardless of the results - 28/01/2010 01:55:03 PM 258 Views
I've pretty much stopped watching news on TV - 29/01/2010 04:18:44 PM 282 Views

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