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I don't think their bias is their problem random thoughts Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 02:57:33 AM
It is a center right country so it is hardly surprising that the only center right TV news show rates the highest. What is really more shocking to me is the other networks are so willing to allow Fox half the country uncontested while they fight with the Daily Show for the other half. I find it kinda of sad because with the exception of a few shows Fox is not a very good news source. I keep expecting on of the other news channels to step up and challenge Fox but they all seem to be racing to their left. CNN keeps acting like they want to but can't seem to pull the trigger.

That is a good point - the reason their news reporting sucks in the first place is that they seem to cater to the viewers' whims far too much, offering the news people want to see instead of that which they need to see, but then on the point of ideological bias, suddenly they ignore that fact you mention of there being more room for another channel on the right than on the left, i.e. of viewers wanting more center-right bias.


They are no more biased then most and less biased then say MSNBC. I think what makes them a mediocre news source is that they treat news as entertainment. The other news channels do it as well but Fox is more successful at it.

When I talk about bias I am talking about the actual news shows Hannity or Beck or any of the other morons they have on during prime time. The morning show I think is the worst since they actually bill that as a news show. The stuff between the morning show and prime time actually isn't that bad and I like Chris Wallace.

I think given the choice most people would claim to want unbiased news but since that really isn't and option most people choose a news source whose bias most closely resembles their own. Biases are much more noticeable and less tolerable when they differ from your own.

Most of the people with strong opinions of Fox News never actually watch it but instead they base their opinion on a few clips which are typically form the opinion portion of the programming. The actual news shows really are no worse then anything else out there and are often actually more balanced on their panels.

I expect so, yeah. I haven't seen remotely enough of any of them to reach a balanced judgement, myself - spent some time watching TV when I was over there a couple weeks ago, but not the news so much. Most of the anti-Fox comments do focus on pundits like O'Reilly (who I don't mind so much) and Hannity, more than on their actual news broadcasts. Of course, what I've seen of actual Fox news broadcasts did leave me distinctly underwhelmed, but I've no reason to assume the others are any better. Way too much focus on crime and random local stories, way too little on foreign news, those are problems that all your news broadcasts have, it seems. It's one of the distinct advantages of having a strong public broadcasting company, imho - not only is their own news decent, but they force their commercial rivals to offer something comparable.


Can't argue with any that. I can't watch the local news except for weather and sports. All of the cable news shows have good parts and bad parts. For all of my criticism of MSNBC its morning show is the only news show I watch regularly and CNN has the best international coverage by far. I get most of my international news from the BBC.
This message last edited by random thoughts on 27/01/2010 at 03:14:01 AM
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Fox is most trusted name in news - 27/01/2010 12:11:15 AM 581 Views
Good thing reality is chosen through consensus. *NM* - 27/01/2010 12:17:17 AM 84 Views
umm it is survey on trust - 27/01/2010 12:47:04 AM 190 Views
Of course it's an accurate poll. But my point is that trust has nothing to do with accuracy. *NM* - 27/01/2010 01:14:59 AM 85 Views
do you have any real evidience that Fox is less acurate? - 27/01/2010 01:28:22 AM 173 Views
Does the poll suggest otherwise? - 27/01/2010 02:32:14 AM 161 Views
well... - 27/01/2010 12:37:40 AM 165 Views
Good for Fox. - 27/01/2010 12:38:39 AM 199 Views
Not really that surprising - 27/01/2010 01:00:52 AM 226 Views
Well, I did say it was remarkable particularly for foreigners. - 27/01/2010 01:58:43 AM 223 Views
I don't think their bias is their problem - 27/01/2010 02:57:33 AM 272 Views
I've always liked ABC's World News Tonight. - 27/01/2010 03:44:59 AM 165 Views
Jim Lehrer, definetly *NM* - 27/01/2010 04:11:17 AM 93 Views
That would be my most trusted TV news source. - 27/01/2010 07:22:51 AM 150 Views
I don't watch much PBS news - 27/01/2010 02:04:12 PM 156 Views
Yes, but The NewsHour has been criticized for being too conservative. *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:01:32 PM 185 Views
well there are people who think Nancy Pelosi is to conserative *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:13:56 PM 124 Views
Re: Not really that surprising - 27/01/2010 06:18:34 PM 160 Views
I am sad for this country after hearing this. *NM* - 27/01/2010 01:45:18 AM 178 Views
Re: Fox is most trusted name in news - 27/01/2010 02:51:04 AM 254 Views
Precisely. *NM* - 27/01/2010 11:26:15 AM 88 Views
A generation ago, the only news channel on TV was CNN. - 27/01/2010 06:20:07 PM 152 Views
Hmmm....now here's the question: - 27/01/2010 03:10:02 AM 173 Views
PPP has a poor record - 27/01/2010 05:01:57 AM 167 Views
And CNN is SECOND?!!! What a badly broken poll.... - 27/01/2010 07:16:09 AM 154 Views
It would be interesting to see how that breaks down by party - 27/01/2010 12:09:51 PM 168 Views
the article does break it down by party - 27/01/2010 02:06:50 PM 163 Views
Only for FOX, which makes trying to analyse it impossible - 27/01/2010 02:51:46 PM 159 Views
here is a link to the full results - 27/01/2010 03:02:50 PM 225 Views
So the parties are pretty much going each way - 27/01/2010 04:19:59 PM 165 Views
Re: So the parties are pretty much going each way - 27/01/2010 04:36:08 PM 149 Views
I guess it makes sense - 27/01/2010 11:33:25 PM 154 Views
It does - 28/01/2010 12:09:14 PM 154 Views
They also treat them like a single group which I find ironic - 30/01/2010 05:40:28 PM 155 Views
I personally think both sides are wrong - 27/01/2010 04:40:36 PM 147 Views
Besides the fact who wins or loses, it's a very sad state of affairs for democracy... - 27/01/2010 01:15:34 PM 153 Views
Skepticism is usually a good sign in a democracy - 27/01/2010 02:18:58 PM 195 Views
Re: Skepticism is usually a good sign in a democracy - 28/01/2010 03:42:55 AM 156 Views
Well, at least Fox is better than the BBC - 27/01/2010 01:43:32 PM 158 Views
I'm fairly certain you don't really mean that... - 27/01/2010 05:33:47 PM 172 Views
One does wonder. - 27/01/2010 05:52:30 PM 176 Views
Re: One does wonder. - 28/01/2010 04:28:47 AM 159 Views
Re: One does wonder. - 28/01/2010 12:12:48 PM 152 Views
haha you got me. Though I do mean it. - 30/01/2010 12:36:03 AM 160 Views
Well, that's me unsurprised. - 27/01/2010 02:23:16 PM 176 Views
Re: Well, that's me unsurprised. - 27/01/2010 02:31:57 PM 158 Views
Re: Well, that's me unsurprised. - 27/01/2010 02:53:04 PM 156 Views
It was the most watched cable channel last week - 27/01/2010 03:08:36 PM 159 Views
You can't offend me by saying that. - 27/01/2010 03:23:26 PM 138 Views
I know - 27/01/2010 04:23:18 PM 168 Views
I almost said something earlier. - 27/01/2010 06:34:18 PM 130 Views
Was the poll done in a trailerpark where everyone was their own uncle? - 27/01/2010 06:59:01 PM 184 Views
I think the same thing everytime I see European TV - 27/01/2010 08:13:13 PM 135 Views
Re: Was the poll done in a trailerpark where everyone was their own uncle? - 28/01/2010 03:49:10 AM 129 Views
That's like saying so-and-so won a Grammy. - 27/01/2010 07:39:54 PM 129 Views
That's like going a high security prison for a visit - 28/01/2010 03:38:45 AM 142 Views
telephone polls are no longer an accurate representation of popular opinion - 28/01/2010 04:12:52 AM 124 Views
I verbally abuse people who call to poll me. I'm going to keep doing it. - 28/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 221 Views
funny how people suddenly dismiss polls when they say something they don't like - 28/01/2010 05:57:10 AM 149 Views
Funnily, the first person who did that is Issac who has seemed a right wing type to me. - 28/01/2010 12:19:05 PM 150 Views
I there is nothing wrong with questioning what a poll tells us - 28/01/2010 02:02:29 PM 145 Views
Those where the only type of replies I saw though - 28/01/2010 02:24:55 PM 137 Views
I made it a comment to main thread for a reason - 28/01/2010 04:22:14 PM 138 Views
Isaac, not Issac - 30/01/2010 07:10:20 AM 141 Views
Bah, I only have your word for that being how your spell your name - 01/02/2010 01:08:24 PM 251 Views
It's pretty much the only Anglic spelling of it - 01/02/2010 02:15:45 PM 180 Views
I would have complained about the telephony regardless of the results - 28/01/2010 01:55:03 PM 133 Views
I've pretty much stopped watching news on TV - 29/01/2010 04:18:44 PM 137 Views

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