But that isn't what Jens said. That isn't what a great many of the people at this site say. They find it crazy that anyone pays anything directly for their own healthcare. My point is, food and housing are at least as basic "rights" as healthcare. Yet, I don't think hardly anyone at this site thinks that giving higher taxes to the government and then having them allocate food and housing would be a good thing. Yet, for some reason, that seems to be the most widely held idea as a solution to healthcare at this site.
Of course, even in most socialized systems, people pay certain sums directly for their own healthcare - you don't want to encourage people going to the doctor constantly for nothing, it's not a good idea to make it entirely "free".
But there are several reasons why socalized healthcare makes sense while doing the same with food or housing doesn't. First and foremost among those, the fact that food and housing are things you need constantly, whereas healthcare is something you need at highly irregular times, but then it can suddenly be an enormous cost. Even if you're a responsible person who saves money for rainy days, health problems can wipe out your savings and make you bankrupt - even the right in the US acknowledges that and wants to avoid those situations. Due to that, it becomes advantageous to set up a system where you pool all those risks, sharing both the costs and the payouts among large amounts of people. That's just the essence of the entire insurance industry. Of course, you can do that through private insurers, but unless you do that with far-reaching regulations, they'll just find ways to increase their profits by avoiding the high-risk patients, and in so doing largely excluding some people from the benefits of the system. And I don't think I need to repeat those figures about how large a percentage of GDP the US spends on healthcare with its private system, compared to the countries with socialized healthcare. It works, evidently (yeah, abrupt ending, I kinda have to be off to class now

I have a medical costs question too...
10/02/2010 03:08:14 PM
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If you look at your policy
10/02/2010 03:27:15 PM
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I'm all for being a control freak when I can.
11/02/2010 03:07:37 PM
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One other thing you should be aware of
11/02/2010 03:25:07 PM
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You might want to call your insurer and talk to them about who to see.
10/02/2010 03:34:53 PM
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Do you think an actual person would have better referrals than the website?
11/02/2010 03:14:01 PM
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I don't think we'll be able to do you much good.
10/02/2010 03:36:57 PM
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For CU, that list seems to be really outdated.
11/02/2010 12:13:06 AM
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and as far as the frustrating part...
11/02/2010 01:58:39 AM
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Hmmm.
11/02/2010 03:17:50 PM
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Most doctor's offices
11/02/2010 03:32:55 PM
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Mine was a little as well.
11/02/2010 12:46:45 PM
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It was funny, because most of them were medical-ish, but I got a bariatric center, a therapist...
11/02/2010 02:25:03 PM
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I just know a worried person should not pay a damn cent...
10/02/2010 03:53:19 PM
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Why? Should I not have to think about how to pay for my dinner tonight?
10/02/2010 04:23:31 PM
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The Dole or hardship funds should help people who can't afford food
10/02/2010 04:28:49 PM
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I agree, the needy should be helped.
10/02/2010 04:32:45 PM
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I don't agree with your characterization of commonly proposed healthcare solutions.
10/02/2010 04:42:06 PM
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I don't think he's mischaracterizing anything so much as responding to Jens' point directly.
10/02/2010 04:54:55 PM
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As a response to Jens' point, it works, but he used very general language.
10/02/2010 07:37:20 PM
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Furnace? Health? Erm...
10/02/2010 08:04:03 PM
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no
10/02/2010 08:40:12 PM
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I didn't like the example
10/02/2010 08:46:24 PM
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There are several good reasons for that.
10/02/2010 04:48:59 PM
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I see no problem with the state paying the vast majority of medical costs
10/02/2010 04:53:57 PM
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Have you never looked at the boatloads of information that your insurer has surely sent to you? *NM*
10/02/2010 04:19:09 PM
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I've never been sent a thing from them...
10/02/2010 04:28:57 PM
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I believe, although I no longer am covered by Blue Cross, that most tests are covered.
10/02/2010 11:28:34 PM
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I have no idea regarding insurance
11/02/2010 10:32:11 AM
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Yes, and just in general, it's good to have a GP. But they are elusive creatures. Like unicorns. *NM*
11/02/2010 03:33:24 PM
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Your doctor's office should be able to answer most questions for you
11/02/2010 02:36:10 PM
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