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I see no problem with the state paying the vast majority of medical costs Mark Send a noteboard - 10/02/2010 04:53:57 PM
Perhaps we all need food insurance. If healthcare-on-demand is a "right" then surely food is, too.


If someone can't afford to buy food of course they should be helped out by the state. Same with healthcare


But that isn't what Jens said. That isn't what a great many of the people at this site say. They find it crazy that anyone pays anything directly for their own healthcare. My point is, food and housing are at least as basic "rights" as healthcare. Yet, I don't think hardly anyone at this site thinks that giving higher taxes to the government and then having them allocate food and housing would be a good thing. Yet, for some reason, that seems to be the most widely held idea as a solution to healthcare at this site.


You do have to pay a nominal or reduced fee to access healthcare in most European countries. Only those on very low incomes have the entire cost covered by the state. The state does buy housing to provide for those who can't afford their own. The state retains ownership of the property, but people have somewhere to live as tennents.

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I have a medical costs question too... Lupine - 10/02/2010 03:08:14 PM 834 Views
If you look at your policy Sareitha Sedai - 10/02/2010 03:27:15 PM 488 Views
I'm all for being a control freak when I can. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:07:37 PM 456 Views
One other thing you should be aware of Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:25:07 PM 458 Views
Yes... that's very useful information. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:46:17 PM 295 Views
I was afraid of that Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:52:49 PM 416 Views
You might want to call your insurer and talk to them about who to see. Joel - 10/02/2010 03:34:53 PM 414 Views
Do you think an actual person would have better referrals than the website? Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:14:01 PM 473 Views
I do, and sorry for the delay. Joel - 15/02/2010 02:11:55 PM 447 Views
I don't think we'll be able to do you much good. nossy - 10/02/2010 03:36:57 PM 437 Views
For CU, that list seems to be really outdated. Lupine - 11/02/2010 12:13:06 AM 395 Views
I didn't read all the replies before I posted mine.Woops. *NM* Avendesora - 11/02/2010 01:54:59 AM 223 Views
and as far as the frustrating part... Avendesora - 11/02/2010 01:58:39 AM 279 Views
Hmmm. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:17:50 PM 279 Views
Most doctor's offices Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:32:55 PM 444 Views
But it's embarrassing. <whine> Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:50:40 PM 392 Views
I'm sure Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:58:29 PM 402 Views
Sareitha pretty much covered it! Avendesora - 11/02/2010 04:53:25 PM 437 Views
Mine was a little as well. nossy - 11/02/2010 12:46:45 PM 434 Views
It was funny, because most of them were medical-ish, but I got a bariatric center, a therapist... Lupine - 11/02/2010 02:25:03 PM 274 Views
I just know a worried person should not pay a damn cent... ironclad - 10/02/2010 03:53:19 PM 465 Views
This is frustrating. (Meant as reply to main thread/everyone.) Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:05:57 PM 413 Views
Oops, I replied in the wrong place. Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:07:15 PM 298 Views
Well Sareitha Sedai - 10/02/2010 04:10:12 PM 396 Views
Re: Well Avendesora - 11/02/2010 02:13:08 AM 267 Views
Why? Should I not have to think about how to pay for my dinner tonight? LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:23:31 PM 415 Views
The Dole or hardship funds should help people who can't afford food Mark - 10/02/2010 04:28:49 PM 312 Views
I agree, the needy should be helped. LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:32:45 PM 391 Views
I don't agree with your characterization of commonly proposed healthcare solutions. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/02/2010 04:42:06 PM 440 Views
I don't think he's mischaracterizing anything so much as responding to Jens' point directly. Sareitha Sedai - 10/02/2010 04:54:55 PM 504 Views
<3 damookster - 10/02/2010 05:06:29 PM 317 Views
As a response to Jens' point, it works, but he used very general language. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/02/2010 07:37:20 PM 274 Views
Furnace? Health? Erm... ironclad - 10/02/2010 08:04:03 PM 308 Views
no damookster - 10/02/2010 08:40:12 PM 291 Views
I didn't like the example ironclad - 10/02/2010 08:46:24 PM 408 Views
that's why I pay for health insurance *NM* damookster - 10/02/2010 08:58:06 PM 123 Views
So do we? *NM* Legolas - 10/02/2010 09:13:28 PM 220 Views
exactly damookster - 10/02/2010 09:22:14 PM 344 Views
Precisely ironclad - 10/02/2010 08:00:39 PM 273 Views
There are several good reasons for that. Legolas - 10/02/2010 04:48:59 PM 443 Views
I see no problem with the state paying the vast majority of medical costs Mark - 10/02/2010 04:53:57 PM 508 Views
I understand you're not being serious, but... Dreaded Anomaly - 10/02/2010 04:37:12 PM 295 Views
Have you never looked at the boatloads of information that your insurer has surely sent to you? *NM* LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:19:09 PM 124 Views
I've never been sent a thing from them... Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:28:57 PM 428 Views
Do you or your parents hold the policy? LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:35:00 PM 275 Views
My parents do. Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:44:29 PM 467 Views
policy info.... damookster - 10/02/2010 04:52:29 PM 390 Views
Thank you! Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:25:42 PM 263 Views
I believe, although I no longer am covered by Blue Cross, that most tests are covered. Ghavrel - 10/02/2010 11:28:34 PM 360 Views
My experience with them has been generally positive too. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:27:50 PM 275 Views
In my case... Avendesora - 11/02/2010 01:53:32 AM 301 Views
*nods* Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:32:44 PM 383 Views
I have no idea regarding insurance smaug - 11/02/2010 10:32:11 AM 427 Views
Yes, and just in general, it's good to have a GP. But they are elusive creatures. Like unicorns. *NM* Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:33:24 PM 218 Views
Your doctor's office should be able to answer most questions for you random thoughts - 11/02/2010 02:36:10 PM 260 Views
Once I get one. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:36:19 PM 272 Views
Well that should be your first step random thoughts - 11/02/2010 04:49:00 PM 325 Views
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