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doesn't offend me, I am agnostic random thoughts Send a noteboard - 22/02/2010 06:50:41 PM
People comment those acts and sometimes they use religion to justify them but the communist proved that people are capable of sufficient maiming and killing with religion. Religion can and does do a lot of good of in the world. If you just look at the Judaea Christian value system there are definitely parts of it that need to be tossed out but most of those tend to be culture then anything else.

Sorry but the idea that we can somehow make the world better by killing religion as misguided as the idea that we can make the world better by having only one "true" religion. What real changes to you think could be accomplished if we did manage to kill religion? Do you think people would actually start treating each other better if the didn’t believe in god?


Unfortunately, no, I don't think it would solve anything. In an [my] ideal world, it could be done and would be beneficial. However, some people need to believe there is some higher power in order to not do evil, or to make their existence more worthwhile...to feel like there is something lasting place to spend eternity.

We had this debate one day in one of my ancient Greek classes. Our professor was saying that all morality and values stem from Christianity, and not the cultures which came before its inception as the dominant religion. I was incredulous, as he was a professor...of ancient history and Classics...yet he said the Greeks did not practice such common sense things as "don't kill your neighbor because he might retaliate," "don't be adulterous because you might end up raising someone else's kid," and "hey! don't steal...you might ruin the economy if you do!" for any moral reasons, and that Christianity didn't derive these things from said cultures.

The reason why I bring this up is because I believe in humanity's ability to perpetuate itself, using such common principles as the aforementioned, without the need to quantify or authorize them as necessities from some higher power. I help my fellow human being because I desire to, and I hope some day when I need help there will be someone willing to return the favor. I don't do a bunch of favors for ulterior motives or to get roll over points with Jesus and the apostles in order to get onto the VIP access to enter the Heaven dance club.
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Study: Young Americans less religious than their parents - 19/02/2010 03:41:04 AM 1059 Views
Re: Study: Young Americans less religious than their parents - 19/02/2010 05:45:41 AM 516 Views
Heh...praying that an area doesn't become more religious. *NM* - 19/02/2010 06:25:54 AM 215 Views
the irony in seeing only Christianity as religious, yet praying to "the gods" - 19/02/2010 12:32:49 PM 605 Views
....I hope you realize that I was joking. *NM* - 19/02/2010 07:49:09 PM 213 Views
Yeah, I'd say that fits in with my observations - 19/02/2010 06:56:26 AM 499 Views
it's probably a culture thing - 19/02/2010 02:25:15 PM 468 Views
lol, it's only fish on Fridays during Lent (no meat). - 19/02/2010 05:56:34 PM 532 Views
Doh, that's what I meant - 19/02/2010 07:03:52 PM 558 Views
I find that very unsurprising. - 19/02/2010 12:48:38 PM 554 Views
Re: I find that very unsurprising. - 19/02/2010 01:52:01 PM 559 Views
Oh, good. *NM* - 19/02/2010 03:17:03 PM 202 Views
These things are often cyclical. - 19/02/2010 06:00:29 PM 483 Views
Re: These things are often cyclical. - 19/02/2010 07:55:33 PM 474 Views
There was a(t least one) large wotmania thread on it. - 01/03/2010 02:30:44 AM 516 Views
hardly surprising with a pop culture that attacks and ridicules religious thoughts and values - 19/02/2010 08:20:35 PM 517 Views
Re: hardly surprising with a pop culture that attacks and ridicules religious thoughts and values - 19/02/2010 08:44:16 PM 507 Views
horseshit - 19/02/2010 09:16:40 PM 553 Views
Agreed - 19/02/2010 09:30:39 PM 512 Views
Re: Agreed - 19/02/2010 09:38:46 PM 464 Views
Re: horseshit - 19/02/2010 09:35:48 PM 541 Views
(that last bit was supposed to be taken as ridiculous, and not an offensive statement towards you) - 19/02/2010 09:37:11 PM 532 Views
doesn't offend me, I am agnostic - 22/02/2010 06:50:41 PM 487 Views
Re: horseshit - 21/02/2010 08:11:49 PM 447 Views
Yeah, not everyone's faith has rollover points. Some people have Verizon or Sprint religions. - 21/02/2010 10:02:43 PM 496 Views
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Oh, I wasn't refering to you saying rollover points - 22/02/2010 12:01:52 AM 493 Views
I don't think a moral compass is the sole benefit of religion - 22/02/2010 07:13:08 PM 471 Views
Re: Study: Young Americans less religious than their parents - 21/02/2010 11:29:56 PM 591 Views
Organized religion is oxymoronic in many ways. - 01/03/2010 03:06:18 AM 638 Views

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