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So what? Joel Send a noteboard - 05/03/2010 01:40:22 AM
Strange. All the comments in Times seem to badmouth the US. What's up with that ?

Couldn't tell you, but the Armenian genocide is literally the reason the term "genocide" exists. Geopolitics aside, I don't see why anyone would try to placate a country where calling genocide "genocide" is a jailable offense. Particularly in light of statements like these from their President:

"We are seriously concerned that this resolution approved by the committee despite all our warnings will harm Turkey-US ties and efforts to nomalise Turkey-Armenia relations. "

So if the world doesn't turn a blind eye to your mass slaughter of Armenia you won't be their friend? Um, maybe trying to exterminate the entire country was a bad way to start your "friendship. " Maybe insisting it never happened is a poor indicator of that "friendship. " Maybe efforts to sweep under the rug something that literally provided the inspiration to eyewitnesses who later engineered the Nazi Holocaust is an argument against Turkeys entry to the EU. Maybe if young German officers like Ludwig Maximilian Erwin von Scheubner-Richter hadn't witnessed over a million people killed for ethnic and religious reasons Hitler never dedicates part of Mein Kampf to him and starts his own genocide, but the point is we'll never know. In the years just after the Siege of Kosovo, is it really wise for the EU to admit a country that denies a genocide it perpetrated in service to the same centuries old Christian vs. Muslim hatred that produced the Siege of Vienna and the two bloodiest wars in human history?

Pardon me if the delicate TURKISH sensibilities aren't my primary concern here. Kudos to Berman for having the integrity to keep his political commitments, even if it might have been for pragmatic reasons, and shame on Obama for revoking yet another campaign promise. "Change" increasingly looks a lot like politics as usual (surprise, surprise.... )
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I don't like the new military uniform colors. Off to prison!!! *NM* - 05/03/2010 01:38:58 AM 84 Views
I agree with Tom *NM* - 05/03/2010 12:50:13 AM 83 Views
How is denying the eponym's genocide improving relations with Armenia? - 05/03/2010 01:44:17 AM 191 Views
Please don't throw the Hagia Sophia. - 05/03/2010 02:01:31 AM 197 Views
Perish the thought. - 05/03/2010 02:13:15 AM 164 Views
Modern Armenia looks at it rather differently than the diaspora does. - 05/03/2010 09:58:21 AM 185 Views
Yes, but the Turks are pretending not to understand democracy - 05/03/2010 11:04:25 AM 174 Views
I imagine modern Armenia is more placating, yes. - 15/03/2010 05:58:24 AM 173 Views
I wish the Turks would just admit it on their own. - 05/03/2010 12:33:27 AM 172 Views
I agree. They just need to man up and admit it, apologize, and move on. *NM* - 05/03/2010 01:38:12 AM 79 Views
So what? - 05/03/2010 01:40:22 AM 208 Views
I think it is a trickey one. - 05/03/2010 10:18:02 AM 180 Views

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