Yes, THIS bill didn't do much in the way of cost mitigation.
And I'll be annoyed if the next one doesn't...but until then, I'm willing to wait.
And I'll be annoyed if the next one doesn't...but until then, I'm willing to wait.
You're falling for the "we have to pass this horrible bill now or healthcare reform is doomed for a generation111" BS that Obama and Co. used to gain support for the bill. In Washington, declaring victories heading into elections is more important than actually ACHIEVING victories, which is why Obamas instructions to Reid on negotiations with Lieberman basically consisted of "give away the store if you have to, but get his vote. "
After all the struggle and damage to both sides NO ONE will have any taste for revisiting this issue. Especially since the prevalent view will be that it's finally been settled (which is the first thing opponents of real reform will say, followed by claims their charges of incremental socialism were right all along. ) This bill is ironic in many ways: It's biggest critics are its greatest beneficiaries, it's biggest supporters are its most unlikely defenders and since few cost controls will exist even after the reconciliation bill it will likely just inflate costs as the mad scramble for a trillion plus dollars ensues. And, of course, most ironically, passing it will actually accomplish what it's supposed to prevent: The end of healthcare reform for a generation.
We're done with healthcare for a while unless republicans take power.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
Obamacare: Explained?
22/03/2010 07:21:44 PM
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Someone had a good link earlier...
22/03/2010 07:32:36 PM
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Thanks
23/03/2010 03:48:04 AM
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They don't, or at least not in this bill. That'll have to be a new bill.
23/03/2010 09:22:19 AM
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What the bill does, and when each part gets implemented
22/03/2010 07:42:26 PM
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This is wonderful thank you. I've already picked my favorite.
22/03/2010 07:47:59 PM
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Fear, uncertainty, and doubt
22/03/2010 07:52:29 PM
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this is why I believe in dictatorships
22/03/2010 08:05:14 PM
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It's all populism, really
23/03/2010 03:51:31 AM
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OOoo I like that idea.
23/03/2010 04:20:48 AM
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Re: OOoo I like that idea.
23/03/2010 03:01:08 PM
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Senators don't constantly campaign though.
23/03/2010 04:20:51 PM
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I don't think that's the point though...
23/03/2010 09:35:29 PM
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To the extent the framers intended an elitist legislature, they erred, IMHO.
29/03/2010 01:43:34 PM
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At one point some of the concerns were valid.
23/03/2010 06:03:29 AM
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Re: At one point some of the concerns were valid.
23/03/2010 03:05:58 PM
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We can't pay for the subsidies; even after the tax hike they increase debt in the short term.
23/03/2010 04:12:14 PM
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Re: We can't pay for the subsidies; even after the tax hike they increase debt in the short term.
23/03/2010 09:40:53 PM
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Can't find that link in this thread, but the CBO seems to agree with you, not me.
23/03/2010 11:47:29 PM
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I don't agree
24/03/2010 08:52:12 PM
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"Free market" is a VERY big phrase.
25/03/2010 07:32:06 AM
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Re: This is wonderful thank you. I've already picked my favorite.
22/03/2010 08:04:50 PM
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Re: This is wonderful thank you. I've already picked my favorite.
22/03/2010 08:07:39 PM
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Re: This is wonderful thank you. I've already picked my favorite.
22/03/2010 08:28:10 PM
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The $900 billion is essentially just government subsidies: Healthcare's gotten THAT expensive.
23/03/2010 06:23:01 AM
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you make it sound like this is the end-all bill.
23/03/2010 12:01:20 PM
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I doubt we'll see another bill after the reconciliation bill.
23/03/2010 02:05:59 PM
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I agree 100%
23/03/2010 03:18:08 PM
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no, the "now or doomed" mindset is not why I'm willing to wait
23/03/2010 03:23:21 PM
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Well, if you really are waiting for them to fix it later you'll wait a long time.
23/03/2010 04:33:25 PM
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It's quite simple.
23/03/2010 04:23:45 PM
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And what does government-run health care have to do with this bill?
23/03/2010 04:25:28 PM
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