Future Pope stalled on removing child molesting priest, even though the Bishop wanted him defrocked
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Future Pope Stalled on Abuse Case, Letter Suggests
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 5:10 p.m. ET
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including ''the good of the universal church,'' according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
The correspondence, obtained by The Associated Press, is the strongest challenge yet to the Vatican's insistence that Benedict played no role in blocking the removal of pedophile priests during his years as head of the Catholic Church's doctrinal watchdog office.
The letter, signed by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, was typed in Latin and is part of years of correspondence between the Diocese of Oakland and the Vatican about the proposed defrocking of the Rev. Stephen Kiesle.
The Vatican confirmed Friday that it was Ratzinger's signature. ''The press office doesn't believe it is necessary to respond to every single document taken out of context regarding particular legal situations,'' the Rev. Federico Lombardi said.
Another spokesman, the Rev. Ciro Benedettini, said the letter showed no attempt at a cover-up. ''The then-Cardinal Ratzinger didn't cover up the case, but as the letter clearly shows, made clear the need to study the case with more attention, taking into account the good of all involved.''
The diocese recommended removing Kiesle (KEEZ'-lee) from the priesthood in 1981, the year Ratzinger was appointed to head the Vatican office that shared responsibility for disciplining abusive priests.
The case then languished for four years at the Vatican before Ratzinger finally wrote to Oakland Bishop John Cummins. It was two more years before Kiesle was removed; during that time he continued to do volunteer work with children through the church.
In the November 1985 letter, Ratzinger says the arguments for removing Kiesle are of ''grave significance'' but added that such actions required very careful review and more time. He also urged the bishop to provide Kiesle with ''as much paternal care as possible'' while awaiting the decision, according to a translation for AP by Professor Thomas Habinek, chairman of the University of Southern California Classics Department.
But the future pope also noted that any decision to defrock Kiesle must take into account the ''good of the universal church'' and the ''detriment that granting the dispensation can provoke within the community of Christ's faithful, particularly considering the young age.'' Kiesle was 38 at the time.
Kiesle had been sentenced in 1978 to three years' probation after pleading no contest to misdemeanor charges of lewd conduct for tying up and molesting two young boys in a San Francisco Bay area church rectory.
As his probation ended in 1981, Kiesle asked to leave the priesthood and the diocese submitted papers to Rome to defrock him.
In his earliest letter to Ratzinger, Cummins warned that returning Kiesle to ministry would cause more of a scandal than stripping him of his priestly powers.
''It is my conviction that there would be no scandal if this petition were granted and that as a matter of fact, given the nature of the case, there might be greater scandal to the community if Father Kiesle were allowed to return to the active ministry,'' Cummins wrote in 1982.
While papers obtained by the AP include only one letter with Ratzinger's signature, correspondence and internal memos from the diocese refer to a letter dated Nov. 17, 1981, from the then-cardinal to the bishop. Ratzinger was appointed to head the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith a week later.
California church officials wrote to Ratzinger at least three times to check on the status of Kiesle's case and Cummins discussed the case with officials during a Vatican visit, according to correspondence. At one point, a Vatican official wrote to say the file may have been lost and suggested resubmitting materials.
Diocese officials considered writing Ratzinger again after they received his 1985 response to impress upon him that leaving Kiesle in the ministry would harm the church, Rev. George Mockel wrote in a memo to the Oakland bishop.
''My own reading of this letter is that basically they are going to sit on it until Steve gets quite a bit older,'' the memo said. ''Despite his young age, the particular and unique circumstances of this case would seem to make it a greater scandal if he were not laicized.''
As Kiesle's fate was being weighed in Rome, the priest returned to suburban Pinole to volunteer as a youth minister at St. Joseph Church, where he had served as associate pastor from 1972 to 1975.
Kiesle was ultimately stripped of his priestly powers on Feb. 13, 1987, though the documents do not indicate how or why. They also don't say what role -- if any -- Ratzinger had in the decision.
Kiesle continued to volunteer with children, according to Maurine Behrend, who worked in the Oakland diocese's youth ministry office in the 1980s. After learning of his history, Behrend complained to church officials. When nothing was done she wrote a letter, which she showed to the AP.
''Obviously nothing has been done after EIGHT months of repeated notifications,'' she wrote. ''How are we supposed to have confidence in the system when nothing is done? A simple phone call to the pastor from the bishop is all it would take.''
She eventually confronted Cummins at a confirmation and Kiesle was gone a short time later, Behrend said.
Kiesle, who married after leaving the priesthood, was arrested and charged in 2002 with 13 counts of child molestation from the 1970s. All but two were thrown out after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional a California law extending the statute of limitations.
He pleaded no contest in 2004 to a felony for molesting a young girl in his Truckee home in 1995 and was sentenced to six years in state prison.
Kiesle, now 63 and a registered sex offender, lives in a Walnut Creek gated community, according to his address listed on the Megan's Law sex registry. An AP reporter was turned away when attempting to reach him for comment.
William Gagen, an attorney who represented Kiesle in 2002, did not return a call for comment.
More than a half-dozen victims reached a settlement in 2005 with the Oakland diocese alleging Kiesle had molested them as young children.
''He admitted molesting many children and bragged that he was the Pied Piper and said he tried to molest every child that sat on his lap,'' said Lewis VanBlois, an attorney for six Kiesle victims who interviewed the former priest in prison. ''When asked how many children he had molested over the years, he said 'tons.'''
Cummins, 82 and now retired, initially told the AP he did not recall writing to Ratzinger about Kiesle, but he remembered when shown the letter with his signature on Friday. He said things had changed over the past quarter century.
''When he (Ratzinger) took over I think he was following what was the practice of the time, that Pope John Paul was slowing these things down. You didn't just walk out of the priesthood then,'' Cummins said.
''These things were slow and their idea of thoroughness was a little more than ours. We were in a situation that was hands-on, with personal reaction.''
Documents obtained by the AP last week revealed similar instances of Vatican stalling in cases involving two Arizona clergy.
In one case, the future pope took over the abuse case of the Rev. Michael Teta of Tucson, Ariz., then let it languish at the Vatican for years despite repeated pleas from the bishop for the man to be removed from the priesthood.
In the second, the bishop called Msgr. Robert Trupia a ''major risk factor'' in a letter to Ratzinger. There is no indication in those files that Ratzinger responded.
The Vatican has called the accusations ''absolutely groundless'' and said the facts were being misrepresented.
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Associated Press writers Brooke Donald in Oakland, Eric Gorski in Denver, John Mone in San Diego, Raquel Maria Dillon in Los Angeles and Victor L. Simpson in Rome contributed to this report.
I am so angry at my former church, letting this cancer go on for so long. It has been part of the church history for centuries letting such molestations slide, looking away, pretending it isn't happening.
The guy was arrested, tried, and served 3 years in jail (why it was only 3 years and misdeamors is beyond me, he tied the boys up and raped them.) After the 3 year jail sentence the bishop is calling for the vatican to defrock a priest due to the fact the priest is molesting children, you do not do a wait and see for 6 years deciding whether to defrock him. Doing so IS EVIL!!! And during this time the priest worked with children while still connected to the church.
I cry for my former church, for while I do not believe, I do recognize the good they do and how some people feel "helped" by the church. At the same time this cancer, this abomination, must be torn out. It is unacceptable.
I AM SO ANGRY about this, wanting to perform violence on these people that let dozens of kids get abused again and again. So angry and so of sadness.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 5:10 p.m. ET
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The future Pope Benedict XVI resisted pleas to defrock a California priest with a record of sexually molesting children, citing concerns including ''the good of the universal church,'' according to a 1985 letter bearing his signature.
The correspondence, obtained by The Associated Press, is the strongest challenge yet to the Vatican's insistence that Benedict played no role in blocking the removal of pedophile priests during his years as head of the Catholic Church's doctrinal watchdog office.
The letter, signed by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, was typed in Latin and is part of years of correspondence between the Diocese of Oakland and the Vatican about the proposed defrocking of the Rev. Stephen Kiesle.
The Vatican confirmed Friday that it was Ratzinger's signature. ''The press office doesn't believe it is necessary to respond to every single document taken out of context regarding particular legal situations,'' the Rev. Federico Lombardi said.
Another spokesman, the Rev. Ciro Benedettini, said the letter showed no attempt at a cover-up. ''The then-Cardinal Ratzinger didn't cover up the case, but as the letter clearly shows, made clear the need to study the case with more attention, taking into account the good of all involved.''
The diocese recommended removing Kiesle (KEEZ'-lee) from the priesthood in 1981, the year Ratzinger was appointed to head the Vatican office that shared responsibility for disciplining abusive priests.
The case then languished for four years at the Vatican before Ratzinger finally wrote to Oakland Bishop John Cummins. It was two more years before Kiesle was removed; during that time he continued to do volunteer work with children through the church.
In the November 1985 letter, Ratzinger says the arguments for removing Kiesle are of ''grave significance'' but added that such actions required very careful review and more time. He also urged the bishop to provide Kiesle with ''as much paternal care as possible'' while awaiting the decision, according to a translation for AP by Professor Thomas Habinek, chairman of the University of Southern California Classics Department.
But the future pope also noted that any decision to defrock Kiesle must take into account the ''good of the universal church'' and the ''detriment that granting the dispensation can provoke within the community of Christ's faithful, particularly considering the young age.'' Kiesle was 38 at the time.
Kiesle had been sentenced in 1978 to three years' probation after pleading no contest to misdemeanor charges of lewd conduct for tying up and molesting two young boys in a San Francisco Bay area church rectory.
As his probation ended in 1981, Kiesle asked to leave the priesthood and the diocese submitted papers to Rome to defrock him.
In his earliest letter to Ratzinger, Cummins warned that returning Kiesle to ministry would cause more of a scandal than stripping him of his priestly powers.
''It is my conviction that there would be no scandal if this petition were granted and that as a matter of fact, given the nature of the case, there might be greater scandal to the community if Father Kiesle were allowed to return to the active ministry,'' Cummins wrote in 1982.
While papers obtained by the AP include only one letter with Ratzinger's signature, correspondence and internal memos from the diocese refer to a letter dated Nov. 17, 1981, from the then-cardinal to the bishop. Ratzinger was appointed to head the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith a week later.
California church officials wrote to Ratzinger at least three times to check on the status of Kiesle's case and Cummins discussed the case with officials during a Vatican visit, according to correspondence. At one point, a Vatican official wrote to say the file may have been lost and suggested resubmitting materials.
Diocese officials considered writing Ratzinger again after they received his 1985 response to impress upon him that leaving Kiesle in the ministry would harm the church, Rev. George Mockel wrote in a memo to the Oakland bishop.
''My own reading of this letter is that basically they are going to sit on it until Steve gets quite a bit older,'' the memo said. ''Despite his young age, the particular and unique circumstances of this case would seem to make it a greater scandal if he were not laicized.''
As Kiesle's fate was being weighed in Rome, the priest returned to suburban Pinole to volunteer as a youth minister at St. Joseph Church, where he had served as associate pastor from 1972 to 1975.
Kiesle was ultimately stripped of his priestly powers on Feb. 13, 1987, though the documents do not indicate how or why. They also don't say what role -- if any -- Ratzinger had in the decision.
Kiesle continued to volunteer with children, according to Maurine Behrend, who worked in the Oakland diocese's youth ministry office in the 1980s. After learning of his history, Behrend complained to church officials. When nothing was done she wrote a letter, which she showed to the AP.
''Obviously nothing has been done after EIGHT months of repeated notifications,'' she wrote. ''How are we supposed to have confidence in the system when nothing is done? A simple phone call to the pastor from the bishop is all it would take.''
She eventually confronted Cummins at a confirmation and Kiesle was gone a short time later, Behrend said.
Kiesle, who married after leaving the priesthood, was arrested and charged in 2002 with 13 counts of child molestation from the 1970s. All but two were thrown out after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional a California law extending the statute of limitations.
He pleaded no contest in 2004 to a felony for molesting a young girl in his Truckee home in 1995 and was sentenced to six years in state prison.
Kiesle, now 63 and a registered sex offender, lives in a Walnut Creek gated community, according to his address listed on the Megan's Law sex registry. An AP reporter was turned away when attempting to reach him for comment.
William Gagen, an attorney who represented Kiesle in 2002, did not return a call for comment.
More than a half-dozen victims reached a settlement in 2005 with the Oakland diocese alleging Kiesle had molested them as young children.
''He admitted molesting many children and bragged that he was the Pied Piper and said he tried to molest every child that sat on his lap,'' said Lewis VanBlois, an attorney for six Kiesle victims who interviewed the former priest in prison. ''When asked how many children he had molested over the years, he said 'tons.'''
Cummins, 82 and now retired, initially told the AP he did not recall writing to Ratzinger about Kiesle, but he remembered when shown the letter with his signature on Friday. He said things had changed over the past quarter century.
''When he (Ratzinger) took over I think he was following what was the practice of the time, that Pope John Paul was slowing these things down. You didn't just walk out of the priesthood then,'' Cummins said.
''These things were slow and their idea of thoroughness was a little more than ours. We were in a situation that was hands-on, with personal reaction.''
Documents obtained by the AP last week revealed similar instances of Vatican stalling in cases involving two Arizona clergy.
In one case, the future pope took over the abuse case of the Rev. Michael Teta of Tucson, Ariz., then let it languish at the Vatican for years despite repeated pleas from the bishop for the man to be removed from the priesthood.
In the second, the bishop called Msgr. Robert Trupia a ''major risk factor'' in a letter to Ratzinger. There is no indication in those files that Ratzinger responded.
The Vatican has called the accusations ''absolutely groundless'' and said the facts were being misrepresented.
------
Associated Press writers Brooke Donald in Oakland, Eric Gorski in Denver, John Mone in San Diego, Raquel Maria Dillon in Los Angeles and Victor L. Simpson in Rome contributed to this report.
I am so angry at my former church, letting this cancer go on for so long. It has been part of the church history for centuries letting such molestations slide, looking away, pretending it isn't happening.
The guy was arrested, tried, and served 3 years in jail (why it was only 3 years and misdeamors is beyond me, he tied the boys up and raped them.) After the 3 year jail sentence the bishop is calling for the vatican to defrock a priest due to the fact the priest is molesting children, you do not do a wait and see for 6 years deciding whether to defrock him. Doing so IS EVIL!!! And during this time the priest worked with children while still connected to the church.
I cry for my former church, for while I do not believe, I do recognize the good they do and how some people feel "helped" by the church. At the same time this cancer, this abomination, must be torn out. It is unacceptable.
I AM SO ANGRY about this, wanting to perform violence on these people that let dozens of kids get abused again and again. So angry and so of sadness.
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Future Pope stalled on removing child molesting priest, even though the Bishop wanted him defrocked
11/04/2010 04:45:25 AM
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The Pope should resign and the Church needs to reform itself.
11/04/2010 04:58:57 AM
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Yeah...
11/04/2010 07:57:39 AM
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^ This idiot hasn't electrocuted himself yet? *NM*
11/04/2010 01:20:22 PM
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Ad hominem attacks...
11/04/2010 04:28:38 PM
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They're only ad hominem when the target is a human being, so that wasn't. *NM*
11/04/2010 04:34:21 PM
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I really don't think you understand the concept of "ad hominem"
11/04/2010 04:43:33 PM
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My gift to you.
11/04/2010 04:48:22 PM
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Thanks.
11/04/2010 06:49:18 PM
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They do?
11/04/2010 05:59:59 PM
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They sure do.
11/04/2010 06:54:24 PM
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Oh yes. And no married man or minister has EVER molested children.
12/04/2010 12:00:40 PM
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And so the problem of having a theoretical ultimate power in anthing shows itself.
11/04/2010 05:09:46 AM
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There is a power greater than Benedict/Ratzinger, a power greater than the pope on earth
11/04/2010 05:22:04 AM
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I really don't think there are ever going to be Ecumenical councils again.
11/04/2010 05:44:07 PM
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I find their continual insistence that nothing inappropriate on Ratzinger's part occured sickening.
11/04/2010 05:20:15 AM
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He can resign, and the pope is not infallible
11/04/2010 05:30:45 AM
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Re: He can resign, and the pope is not infallible
11/04/2010 05:52:10 AM
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I can't excuse stupidity or people who don't understand their faith
11/04/2010 06:03:27 AM
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knowledge? Understanding?
11/04/2010 04:49:14 PM
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The only people I've ever seen say that are atheists, actually. It's a fun little strawman. *NM*
11/04/2010 10:44:56 PM
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I fail to see the problem.
11/04/2010 07:55:42 AM
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They've resigned before. *NM*
12/04/2010 08:43:21 AM
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Not in the last 595 years.
12/04/2010 05:53:10 PM
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I guess Roman Catholicism doesn't have quite the orthodoxy it claims to, then. *NM*
12/04/2010 06:06:54 PM
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By the way, "Future Pope" makes me think of a cyborg in a big gold and white hat. *NM*
12/04/2010 07:00:31 AM
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Could someone explain how an administrative matter invalidates any religious status?
12/04/2010 12:40:33 PM
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