You can do it as is with the HC, but it serves little point
Isaac Send a noteboard - 03/07/2012 02:10:32 PM
If you're a doc HCing as doc, you just say who you targeted, and we always default to 'guilty' being the 'interesting result'. So if you docced and nothing happened, 'Not Guilty' but if you got a hit back saying they were attacked then guilty. People won't necessarily assume a dead doc's HC matters, though I for one always look over HC's of anyone with a night action in case they did. Now we can do a 'new' HD, hypo-doc, table if you want, however some of us will need to deliberately pick to do an exact copy of our Hypocop in case the doc already HC'd, so they wouldn't be singled out by repetition. For this then, if we want a second HD table, non-doc's should flip a coin and on heads, repeat their hypocop verbatim. On tails they should randomly pick a player with a bias toward those they'd be more likely to protect and basically guess on guilt/innocence in these circumstances. We don't think we have a NK in play currently, so odds are the real doc's is 'not guilty' result, but if someone thinks we probably do have a NK that got blocked, then guilty's a good choice.
However... Keep in mind that the bad guys know who they targeted and if it succeeded or not, if the doc really did block an attack it's pretty much guaranteed to stick out on a HDT and out the doc. So normally I wouldn't even advise such a thing. A doc HCing inside the normal HCT is pretty safe, the scum will look at their hit and gloss right over it 'Well Kevin's not guilty, heck he's the guy we tried to kill last night' and so on.
But in this game the doc apparently heals stimpack overuse, I'm assuming that's not just me with a stimpack that does something useful, so knowing who he has 'healed' could be useful... probably very much to the scum too.
I don't mind proceeding, its rather pointless though, the point of the HC is to deal with what happens if your cop dies without claiming first. Now if we have a cop or cop-like role, it is possible they might be immune to cults or that we don't have one, but I'm guessing that the lynched players will now be our only deaths and they will have plenty of time to RC before dying.
Understand, if I were, say, the cop right now and was 'droned' tonight, nothing stops me from saying some BS to tamper with my own results after the fact. "Yes, I said Bob was innocent but I got roleblocked, and I didn't want to draw attention to it or falsely convict him, so I posted him as innocent and I did him again the next night." Or the simple fact that someone could be innocent today and guilty tomorrow.
However... Keep in mind that the bad guys know who they targeted and if it succeeded or not, if the doc really did block an attack it's pretty much guaranteed to stick out on a HDT and out the doc. So normally I wouldn't even advise such a thing. A doc HCing inside the normal HCT is pretty safe, the scum will look at their hit and gloss right over it 'Well Kevin's not guilty, heck he's the guy we tried to kill last night' and so on.
But in this game the doc apparently heals stimpack overuse, I'm assuming that's not just me with a stimpack that does something useful, so knowing who he has 'healed' could be useful... probably very much to the scum too.
I don't mind proceeding, its rather pointless though, the point of the HC is to deal with what happens if your cop dies without claiming first. Now if we have a cop or cop-like role, it is possible they might be immune to cults or that we don't have one, but I'm guessing that the lynched players will now be our only deaths and they will have plenty of time to RC before dying.
Understand, if I were, say, the cop right now and was 'droned' tonight, nothing stops me from saying some BS to tamper with my own results after the fact. "Yes, I said Bob was innocent but I got roleblocked, and I didn't want to draw attention to it or falsely convict him, so I posted him as innocent and I did him again the next night." Or the simple fact that someone could be innocent today and guilty tomorrow.
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Mafia Day 2 - Early Expansion
- 02/07/2012 09:18:28 AM
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Also we might want to decode in whole or part
- 02/07/2012 12:53:30 PM
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Not in favor right now
- 02/07/2012 04:20:17 PM
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Hypocopping?
- 02/07/2012 03:42:46 PM
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Sure, why not. It's not like it would hurt us even if we gain nothing. *NM*
- 02/07/2012 04:40:23 PM
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Hah, I forgot about hypocopping. Sure, let's do it, I'll make a seperate post. *NM*
- 02/07/2012 06:04:03 PM
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If Hypocopping is a thing, is Metadoccing too?
- 03/07/2012 07:11:51 AM
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You can do it as is with the HC, but it serves little point
- 03/07/2012 02:10:32 PM
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So, what should we do? *NM*
- 04/07/2012 04:00:50 PM
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Some next steps
- 04/07/2012 07:46:00 PM
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About exposing the doc...
- 05/07/2012 05:07:14 AM
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I have a stimpack as well.
- 05/07/2012 12:48:16 PM
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Actually I do
- 05/07/2012 03:02:30 PM
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So, did anyone have anything happen to them last night? *NM*
- 06/07/2012 08:06:30 PM
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Well, someone probably got a message saying 'You are now Zerg'...
- 07/07/2012 12:10:36 AM
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I suppose I'll share what happened to me last night.
- 07/07/2012 07:59:43 PM
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Let me probe on that one real quick
- 07/07/2012 08:46:45 PM
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Yes, it is specific.
- 07/07/2012 09:10:39 PM
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Re: Yes, it is specific.
- 07/07/2012 10:10:13 PM
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It was in my original role message. *NM*
- 07/07/2012 10:41:11 PM
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Oh well, I'll take the bait.
- 08/07/2012 01:33:28 AM
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EBWOP: Oh well, I'll take the bait.
- 08/07/2012 01:34:22 AM
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I actually kind of expected that
- 08/07/2012 01:38:48 AM
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Could hear a pindrop in here...
- 08/07/2012 06:31:22 AM
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Yeah, I went to bed just after posting that.
- 08/07/2012 11:47:01 AM
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Well I've got to say your encryption is, uh, vague
- 08/07/2012 06:58:13 PM
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Seems pretty straight forward. Vote: Isaac *NM*
- 09/07/2012 12:11:03 AM
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Hmm wait...
- 09/07/2012 01:49:23 AM
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The Casy name thing is in the message I got from FT.
- 09/07/2012 10:20:49 AM
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I am not voting at this time.
- 09/07/2012 06:47:18 PM
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This has none of my fingerprints on it, something is clearly up and it literally can't be my doing
- 09/07/2012 08:59:45 PM
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Vote: Stephen
- 09/07/2012 11:59:46 PM
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You mean the whole thing where I have been brutally honest and told you everything.
- 10/07/2012 12:12:06 AM
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No, I mean the totally useless bogus encryption. *NM*
- 10/07/2012 12:26:26 AM
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Useless and bogus?
- 10/07/2012 02:04:40 PM
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The main complaint is that your code doesn't contain any role information- HOWEVER
- 10/07/2012 03:01:45 PM
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Isaac- you said you have a stimpack that doesn't protect against infestation?
- 10/07/2012 04:40:18 AM
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Not explicitly, that's why I was fishing with Ranagrande
- 10/07/2012 05:15:47 AM
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Oh, I see....
- 10/07/2012 07:10:13 AM
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Vote: Isaac (again)
- 10/07/2012 03:03:04 PM
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Vote: Stephen, but FOS: Beet, what heck?
- 10/07/2012 06:58:10 PM
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Unvote. Didn't you claim different symptoms than everyone else, though?
- 10/07/2012 09:18:38 PM
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Specifically I claimed a symptom that wasn't explcitly listed as one in my RM
- 10/07/2012 11:01:57 PM
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