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All sensible points. nossy Send a noteboard - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM
Don't get me wrong I like ROTK, but let's be honest, it is the weakest of the LotR films and only won best picture because the academy felt the need to honour the LotR films and failed to give the oscar to FotR, which was the LotR film which deserved it.

Return of the King doesn't even come close to the brilliance of Casablanca. In terms of story, dialogue, acting Casablanca is better. Return of the King doesn't even make sense as a standalone film and since we are not comparing all of the Lord of the Rings films against Casablanca, we must judge Return of the King as a standalone film. In which case it is over long (particularly the endings) is a mess structurally and has poor character development.

I can see it kicking Casablanca's ass on quite a few points (cinematography, etc), but not on best picture.
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Return of the King beat Casablanca? nossy - 23/02/2012 10:49:32 AM 1651 Views
Anyone claiming to have more fun with Casablanca than with ROTK is just crazy ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:03:14 AM 1044 Views
Calm down, buddy. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:10:35 AM 969 Views
*barks* Never! ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:32:59 AM 1051 Views
*bites* nossy - 23/02/2012 09:18:37 PM 1031 Views
I think it's fair to vote if you love one entry enough to wish for it to win *shrugs* ironclad - 23/02/2012 10:08:33 PM 931 Views
Technically, that's just cheering for the home team. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:09:44 PM 926 Views
You seem to confuse this with a presidential election ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:30:05 PM 811 Views
That might be true too. nossy - 24/02/2012 12:11:51 AM 949 Views
I'd say it's a pretty fair spread of years. Chas - 24/02/2012 11:15:30 PM 1244 Views
Have you seen Casablanca? Camilla - 24/02/2012 12:55:30 PM 865 Views
No ironclad - 24/02/2012 02:21:16 PM 960 Views
Well, I have seen both Camilla - 24/02/2012 02:30:34 PM 1021 Views
He doesn't know yet. nossy - 24/02/2012 05:22:11 PM 911 Views
Clearly. Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:32:40 PM 1034 Views
Movies about romance and love that make female audiences cry = chick flick *NM* ironclad - 24/02/2012 05:35:30 PM 490 Views
In that case Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:52:37 PM 1107 Views
Lol. nossy - 24/02/2012 06:17:08 PM 880 Views
LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:05:59 PM 1047 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:10:58 PM 970 Views
Re: LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:23:47 PM 921 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:41:44 PM 1296 Views
Well there goes having a fun movie discussion without someone taking it personally ironclad - 24/02/2012 10:19:40 PM 881 Views
Right. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 10:21:02 PM 549 Views
Actually I'd say Casablanca is one of the most masculine films in existence Mark - 24/02/2012 07:37:02 PM 937 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:08:31 PM 559 Views
I know Bogart is all macho lifting her chin like that and all... ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:11:15 PM 979 Views
You really should stop commenting on it until you have seen it Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:38:49 PM 941 Views
Neither have I. j-whitt987 - 24/02/2012 05:55:37 PM 948 Views
Old movies have a way of shocking you with how modern they are. Legolas - 26/02/2012 12:31:16 PM 1009 Views
"Best" to me means "Most Enjoyable." Kaldric - 23/02/2012 02:09:48 PM 1070 Views
Precisely! ironclad - 23/02/2012 02:30:38 PM 973 Views
I don't disagree with this. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:24:03 PM 877 Views
In the words of W.B. Yeats You have disgraced yourselves again Mark - 23/02/2012 04:04:56 PM 992 Views
See, that's why such polls are both fun and unnecessary ironclad - 23/02/2012 04:13:25 PM 1007 Views
Pfft, you forgot one crucial point Mark - 23/02/2012 05:51:49 PM 1053 Views
A Deathwatch Guard - 23/02/2012 05:04:52 PM 870 Views
Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM 897 Views
You found it was the weakest ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:17:28 PM 893 Views
Perhaps I phrased that a bit badly, true. Sorry about that. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:39:12 PM 965 Views
In fairness Mark - 23/02/2012 11:13:41 PM 1025 Views
ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM 897 Views
All sensible points. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM 814 Views
At least On the Waterfront beat Titanic... *NM* Stephen - 23/02/2012 06:14:19 PM 438 Views
What's much worse, it beat Gone with the Wind. Sacrilege. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:25:47 PM 851 Views
Um... that is not my favorite movie. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:57 PM 951 Views
Not mine, either, but I do love it. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:41:28 PM 844 Views
Aww crap ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:58:31 PM 989 Views
You might have to hate it on principle. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:09:33 PM 787 Views
Casablanca is my all time favorite movie. This enrages me Urza - 23/02/2012 08:55:30 PM 914 Views
Heh nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:09 PM 798 Views
I'm kind of torn on whether I want to see Lawrence of Arabia. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:43:16 PM 946 Views
Hmm, no Hitchcock? dadof5 - 23/02/2012 10:04:25 PM 860 Views
It's only using films which won the best picture oscar Mark - 23/02/2012 10:58:41 PM 916 Views
Ohh, that explains a LOT ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:24:59 PM 832 Views
That does explain a lot dadof5 - 24/02/2012 03:21:08 PM 900 Views
Godfather won, you can all rest easy now ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:30:02 PM 872 Views
Phew? nossy - 25/02/2012 12:14:06 AM 939 Views
THAT CHICK FLICK??!!!?! Stephen - 25/02/2012 12:24:28 AM 843 Views
It feels like "let's be mean to Jens" day. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:49:03 AM 785 Views
Hey, at least we had around 50 decent replies and a nice discussion until things got unpleasant ironclad - 25/02/2012 01:24:48 AM 819 Views
Sorry, I meant my comment to be tongue in cheek Stephen - 25/02/2012 02:19:34 AM 809 Views
Yeah. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:00:19 PM 932 Views
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