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Hey, the chain! Did they mention it at all this year? I thought I recall someone asking me about it Cannoli Send a noteboard - 31/05/2012 05:58:16 AM
For example, originally they had no extra money so outlined the episode as a near-two-hander between Sansa and Cersei with people rushing in with battle reports. They realised this would be awful, so negotiated more money with HBO. GRRM then wrote a version of the episode with the effects toned right down, but I believe with several extra elements (the chain included, IIRC) retained.
I might be tricking myself, but I thought someone I know who watches the show (I have yet to physically encounter anyone who has read the books) was asking me if that was going to be important...

The producers then rewrote THAT version with even the watered-down effects sequences reduced to not very much at all, a bit more than their original outline, but not much. Then they got the more money they had asked for and then (at the last minute) they got Neil Marshall to direct. Marshall, who is a master of taking tiny amounts of money and making it go a long, long way, was able to get more battle scenes out of the budget then they had planned for, so they then had to rewrite the episode again (on the eve of filming) to accomodate that.
It does make one wonder why they bothered making the attempt at this show in the first place, given the scope of the work and the limitations they are running into at such a relatively low-key juncture. Has there been anything of the direwolves since Oxcross? Is that why they had the dragons kidnapped, to avoid using the FX for a couple of episodes?
Cannoli
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Game of Thrones - Season 2, Episode 9 - The Battle of Blackwater! (SPOILERS) Anonymous2000 - 28/05/2012 01:36:41 AM 1686 Views
Awesome episode. *SPOILER* j-whitt987 - 28/05/2012 05:24:03 AM 1327 Views
What was the best line of the episode? Anonymous2000 - 28/05/2012 03:22:47 PM 1235 Views
Re: What was the best line of the episode? j-whitt987 - 28/05/2012 03:33:01 PM 1375 Views
Re: What was the best line of the episode? Callia - 28/05/2012 09:45:37 PM 1283 Views
That was Peter Dinklage's improvisation. Werthead - 29/05/2012 10:47:19 PM 1210 Views
Re: That was Peter Dinklage's improvisation. dacole - 30/05/2012 09:56:59 AM 1172 Views
Re: What was the best line of the episode? aldapelan - 29/05/2012 05:20:54 PM 1158 Views
Tyrion again. Tigr - 29/05/2012 05:28:49 PM 1118 Views
Is Martin now officially a whore? Cannoli - 28/05/2012 08:53:37 AM 1481 Views
The final version of the episode was apparently significantly rewritten by the producers. Werthead - 28/05/2012 12:10:58 PM 1296 Views
Hey, the chain! Did they mention it at all this year? I thought I recall someone asking me about it Cannoli - 31/05/2012 05:58:16 AM 1418 Views
Re: Hey, the chain! Did they mention it at all this year? DomA - 31/05/2012 08:12:57 AM 1169 Views
Are the ratings good? I don't usualy follow that. I get the impression the show is fairly popular... Cannoli - 04/06/2012 04:31:17 PM 1085 Views
No, the chain was never going to be in it (ADWD spoilers) Werthead - 01/06/2012 12:36:04 AM 3941 Views
I agree with all but the part about Joffrey TheCrownless - 29/05/2012 10:51:56 AM 1293 Views
Re: I agree with all but the part about Joffrey dacole - 30/05/2012 09:59:34 AM 1126 Views
Yeah, but he didn't even come into the equation in the books. He was a mere playing piece Cannoli - 31/05/2012 06:13:24 AM 1280 Views
Re: Yeah, but he didn't even come into the equation in the books. He was a mere playing piece dacole - 03/06/2012 06:46:45 AM 1206 Views
Really well done, maybe even the best this season ironclad - 28/05/2012 01:56:38 PM 1280 Views
Re: Really well done, maybe even the best this season everynametaken - 28/05/2012 04:18:39 PM 1230 Views
Bronn in the books. Palatine - 28/05/2012 04:53:10 PM 1318 Views
They didn't need the chain with this version of things. Aemon - 28/05/2012 06:01:08 PM 1390 Views
This is a good example of a common sense TV revision..... Anonymous2000 - 29/05/2012 03:32:25 AM 1432 Views
I thought so too. Aemon - 29/05/2012 07:17:35 AM 1276 Views
Re: This is a good example of a common sense TV revision..... dacole - 30/05/2012 09:54:17 AM 1122 Views
For the TV viewers, most that never read the books..... Anonymous2000 - 30/05/2012 03:58:24 PM 1056 Views
Re: For the TV viewers, most that never read the books..... dacole - 03/06/2012 06:47:57 AM 1088 Views
It was during the day, late afternoon likely Jim - 29/05/2012 03:11:57 AM 1238 Views
Major spoiler question..... Anonymous2000 - 29/05/2012 03:27:43 AM 1224 Views
Spoilers Roland00 - 29/05/2012 03:51:30 AM 1241 Views
Book spoiler Werthead - 29/05/2012 10:51:25 PM 1224 Views
Still need to catch up the last 5 episodes. *NM* Stephen - 28/05/2012 02:28:49 PM 667 Views
Yes, truly amazing episode, probably the best of the entire series so far! Anonymous2000 - 28/05/2012 03:18:48 PM 1174 Views
Interesting recap of the episode..... Anonymous2000 - 28/05/2012 03:20:32 PM 1299 Views
The guy who plays Stannis is phenomenal. everynametaken - 28/05/2012 04:36:51 PM 1317 Views
When Stephen Dillane was announced to play Stannis, I was very concerned..... Anonymous2000 - 28/05/2012 04:47:21 PM 1301 Views
He and Tywin are the only two who have replaced my mental images of the characters. Ghavrel - 29/05/2012 10:19:08 AM 1339 Views
I liked this episode, but the battles were confusing and kind of a let-down. Aemon - 28/05/2012 06:10:03 PM 1358 Views
I haven't read the books, and the whole ending was quite a confusing sequence. Praziquantel - 29/05/2012 03:44:29 AM 1244 Views
Re: I haven't read the books, and the whole ending was quite a confusing sequence. dacole - 30/05/2012 09:58:26 AM 1172 Views
But we, as viewers, are not soldiers; we're more like historians. Or gods, if you prefer. Aemon - 30/05/2012 04:45:37 PM 1194 Views
You're right, but I simply saw it as a way to work with their tight budget ironclad - 31/05/2012 09:05:29 AM 1136 Views
Sure, I agree. Aemon - 01/06/2012 04:26:32 AM 1392 Views
Re: But we, as viewers, are not soldiers; we're more like historians. Or gods, if you prefer. dacole - 03/06/2012 06:44:28 AM 961 Views
Just saw the wildfire scene on youtube A Deathwatch Guard - 29/05/2012 06:46:20 AM 1254 Views
Well..... Anonymous2000 - 29/05/2012 02:33:13 PM 1115 Views
Re: Well..... dacole - 30/05/2012 09:55:05 AM 1034 Views
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