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If you haven't seen it, you really can't judge. It's not a big deal beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 09/01/2013 04:13:48 AM
He just kind of exists to give some kind of recognizable face to the orcs, as opposed to "oh, here are some more monsters"

It doesn't really change the story, and it makes for a better movie.
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The Hobbit - Discussion thread and first thoughts ironclad - 13/12/2012 12:21:52 AM 2565 Views
As for the 3D... ironclad - 13/12/2012 04:18:43 PM 1359 Views
Please get everyone to stop watching movies in 3D in Europe. Tom - 15/12/2012 02:02:40 AM 1216 Views
You overestimate my influence on the people of Europe ironclad - 17/12/2012 11:08:06 AM 1242 Views
Re: As for the 3D... moondog - 08/01/2013 09:25:43 PM 1327 Views
Re: As for the 3D... ironclad - 09/01/2013 09:13:27 AM 1255 Views
I wouldn't call it a rash - more like chafing. nossy - 14/12/2012 04:36:42 PM 1224 Views
Ouch - comparing it to Crystal Skull? *NM* Tom - 15/12/2012 02:02:00 AM 598 Views
Well, the trolls were Moe, Larry and Curly, so... *NM* nossy - 15/12/2012 02:15:19 AM 597 Views
I liked it. There are some nitpicks, but overall it is enjoyable beetnemesis - 14/12/2012 04:50:28 PM 1148 Views
A bit too silly and special effects driven. TheCrownless - 14/12/2012 11:10:48 PM 1219 Views
Agreed. patternweaver - 23/12/2012 12:32:23 AM 1231 Views
I think two words have killed this movie for me: "orc nemesis" Tom - 15/12/2012 02:00:33 AM 1230 Views
To be fair, it's an orc nemesis from the books. Werthead - 15/12/2012 07:23:16 PM 1227 Views
Wait are we talking about Azog here? Roland00 - 16/12/2012 01:08:11 AM 1185 Views
Looks like it. ironclad - 16/12/2012 12:19:19 PM 1104 Views
There was not an orc nemesis in the books Roland00 - 16/12/2012 01:55:59 PM 1065 Views
There actually was in Tolkein's mind, it is just contained in a different book. *NM* HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 02:37:13 PM 563 Views
Actually, they might have already screwed up the Thrain thing. Cannoli - 19/12/2012 01:47:38 AM 1266 Views
I feel robed from my dreams. ferqwert - 21/12/2012 07:57:30 PM 1077 Views
If you haven't seen it, you really can't judge. It's not a big deal beetnemesis - 09/01/2013 04:13:48 AM 1077 Views
Or it would if he weren't a useless whining moron, anyway. Legolas - 09/01/2013 05:33:16 PM 1133 Views
Should have been edited down to 2 hours snoopcester - 15/12/2012 11:05:29 AM 1149 Views
Commercial, forgettable but enjoyable Sports_Gambler - 15/12/2012 11:42:53 AM 1136 Views
It was fun, but it was also weird. Nate - 16/12/2012 08:50:54 AM 1096 Views
Better Nate than lever *NM* *NM* ferqwert - 23/12/2012 11:23:40 PM 547 Views
+1 - Saw it on opening night and loved it! Anonymous2000 - 19/12/2012 01:22:33 AM 1085 Views
I hated it, but I know I will be in the minority. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 02:45:26 PM 1154 Views
i mostly agree with you moondog - 08/01/2013 09:34:04 PM 1259 Views
I think any of those changes need to be viewed with the question, "Did it make a better movie?" beetnemesis - 09/01/2013 04:25:32 AM 1126 Views
Radagast? Bunny Sledge? Archrival Azog? The whole goblin cavern scene? It's a massacre alright. *NM* Bergioyn - 11/01/2013 03:07:55 PM 667 Views
I was dissapointed. Bergioyn - 29/12/2012 01:59:29 PM 1223 Views
I liked it. Avendesora - 30/12/2012 03:56:15 AM 1376 Views
In a word...meh. Tigr - 03/01/2013 09:13:33 PM 1053 Views
i actually liked the stone giant fight, that was part of the book which i appreciated in the film moondog - 08/01/2013 09:47:18 PM 1200 Views
Came across an excellent review with some interesting analysis Legolas - 27/01/2013 10:17:06 PM 1225 Views
It was pretty good. orius - 11/02/2013 06:57:52 AM 1161 Views
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