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How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? Sidious Send a noteboard - 03/05/2010 04:28:11 PM

I've always wondered what RJ was trying to achieve with this character.

Did RJ want to represent the ultimate man? The first thing RJ did to convey this idea was to name him the greatest man of the Age, a title no one could claim in our world, and even if they did, there would be ten thousand men who would challenge it. He also said that Demandred was 'undoubtedly' the second greatest man, meaning that these two men were so awesome that there was no doubt as to who the best men of the Age were.

I've always found this troubling. On what basis were they measured? Is Aviendha greater than Elayne or Egwene... and on what basis? What would she have to do to be 'undoubtedly' greater? What would she have to do to be the greatest person of all compared to anyone in the third Age?

This lends evidence to the fact that LTT was in fact... perfect. Evidence to back this up includes the fact that he is the strongest channeler in the world, was gifted with an amazing intelligence according to RJ, is the most powerful ta'veren around, and is physically superior to other men - being extremely tall, strong and rather good looking. The Forsaken criticize him, but their criticisms seem more like compliments - Be'lal said he could never hurt someone in order to gain power, and Moghedien said he stank of goodness. Even Demandred said he was brilliant.

At the same time, I also think that RJ wanted to present a normal guy who was born with a combination of powerful gifts, and some flaws too. I certainly don't think that Rand is perfect, if he is anything to go by. I can even understand men like Logain finding Rand to be irritating, and even starting to hate him after a while.

What is LTT to you as a character?
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Character discussion 1 : Lews Therin Telamon - 03/05/2010 05:13:30 AM 1361 Views
A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 02:44:35 PM 551 Views
I thought that was supposed to be left up to the reader to decide. - 03/05/2010 03:45:07 PM 493 Views
Yeah, there seems to be an answer in the notes, though - 03/05/2010 04:12:27 PM 528 Views
Re: A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 04:34:23 PM 517 Views
Re: A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 04:47:01 PM 474 Views
Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 03/05/2010 11:29:54 PM 441 Views
Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 04/05/2010 05:22:19 AM 456 Views
Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 05/05/2010 03:29:57 PM 451 Views
And even normals had extended lifespans - Mieran's servant was sixty & in his prime. - 06/05/2010 05:38:43 PM 450 Views
This makes me wonder ... - 06/05/2010 08:34:04 PM 417 Views
Well, Lews Therin is insane with only brief moments of coherence *NM* - 04/05/2010 06:42:09 PM 257 Views
well he is insane after all... - 06/05/2010 08:27:05 PM 396 Views
How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? - 03/05/2010 04:28:11 PM 535 Views
Re: How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? - 03/05/2010 04:53:22 PM 479 Views
A rather unrealistic character in my opinion - 03/05/2010 11:27:32 PM 469 Views
Re: A rather unrealistic character in my opinion - 04/05/2010 12:32:33 PM 457 Views
TGS ought to have put an end to that flawed reasoning - 04/05/2010 04:31:16 PM 560 Views
I have a question - 04/05/2010 06:32:16 PM 482 Views
Re: I have a question - 04/05/2010 11:47:54 PM 456 Views
Overly convoluted theory, in my view... - 05/05/2010 09:48:11 AM 435 Views
but thats how they got 12 books out of it so far... *NM* - 06/05/2010 04:29:50 PM 178 Views
I agree. - 05/05/2010 07:10:50 PM 368 Views
Nods in agreement *NM* - 06/05/2010 08:36:45 PM 170 Views
Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ... - 04/05/2010 06:22:36 PM 501 Views
Re: Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ... - 05/05/2010 12:22:09 AM 430 Views
But... - 05/05/2010 10:19:18 AM 406 Views
Re: But... - 05/05/2010 02:44:18 PM 393 Views
Lews Therin's funny Talent - 04/05/2010 06:34:26 PM 468 Views
Wards can detect people. - 05/05/2010 12:21:02 AM 429 Views
In hindsight - 05/05/2010 08:39:21 AM 420 Views
Re: In hindsight - 05/05/2010 12:20:36 PM 394 Views
Re: In hindsight - 05/05/2010 04:42:45 PM 404 Views
Re: Lews Therin's funny Talent - 05/05/2010 03:12:26 PM 456 Views
Unrealistic and unsympathetic for the most part - 05/05/2010 04:28:34 PM 418 Views

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