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How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? Sidious Send a noteboard - 03/05/2010 04:28:11 PM

I've always wondered what RJ was trying to achieve with this character.

Did RJ want to represent the ultimate man? The first thing RJ did to convey this idea was to name him the greatest man of the Age, a title no one could claim in our world, and even if they did, there would be ten thousand men who would challenge it. He also said that Demandred was 'undoubtedly' the second greatest man, meaning that these two men were so awesome that there was no doubt as to who the best men of the Age were.

I've always found this troubling. On what basis were they measured? Is Aviendha greater than Elayne or Egwene... and on what basis? What would she have to do to be 'undoubtedly' greater? What would she have to do to be the greatest person of all compared to anyone in the third Age?

This lends evidence to the fact that LTT was in fact... perfect. Evidence to back this up includes the fact that he is the strongest channeler in the world, was gifted with an amazing intelligence according to RJ, is the most powerful ta'veren around, and is physically superior to other men - being extremely tall, strong and rather good looking. The Forsaken criticize him, but their criticisms seem more like compliments - Be'lal said he could never hurt someone in order to gain power, and Moghedien said he stank of goodness. Even Demandred said he was brilliant.

At the same time, I also think that RJ wanted to present a normal guy who was born with a combination of powerful gifts, and some flaws too. I certainly don't think that Rand is perfect, if he is anything to go by. I can even understand men like Logain finding Rand to be irritating, and even starting to hate him after a while.

What is LTT to you as a character?
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Character discussion 1 : Lews Therin Telamon - 03/05/2010 05:13:30 AM 1430 Views
A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 02:44:35 PM 607 Views
I thought that was supposed to be left up to the reader to decide. - 03/05/2010 03:45:07 PM 551 Views
Yeah, there seems to be an answer in the notes, though - 03/05/2010 04:12:27 PM 597 Views
Re: A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 04:34:23 PM 577 Views
Re: A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 04:47:01 PM 541 Views
Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 03/05/2010 11:29:54 PM 497 Views
Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 04/05/2010 05:22:19 AM 517 Views
Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 05/05/2010 03:29:57 PM 520 Views
And even normals had extended lifespans - Mieran's servant was sixty & in his prime. - 06/05/2010 05:38:43 PM 521 Views
This makes me wonder ... - 06/05/2010 08:34:04 PM 470 Views
Well, Lews Therin is insane with only brief moments of coherence *NM* - 04/05/2010 06:42:09 PM 305 Views
well he is insane after all... - 06/05/2010 08:27:05 PM 454 Views
How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? - 03/05/2010 04:28:11 PM 605 Views
Re: How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? - 03/05/2010 04:53:22 PM 535 Views
A rather unrealistic character in my opinion - 03/05/2010 11:27:32 PM 529 Views
Re: A rather unrealistic character in my opinion - 04/05/2010 12:32:33 PM 550 Views
TGS ought to have put an end to that flawed reasoning - 04/05/2010 04:31:16 PM 625 Views
I have a question - 04/05/2010 06:32:16 PM 536 Views
Re: I have a question - 04/05/2010 11:47:54 PM 523 Views
Overly convoluted theory, in my view... - 05/05/2010 09:48:11 AM 518 Views
but thats how they got 12 books out of it so far... *NM* - 06/05/2010 04:29:50 PM 217 Views
I agree. - 05/05/2010 07:10:50 PM 426 Views
Nods in agreement *NM* - 06/05/2010 08:36:45 PM 199 Views
Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ... - 04/05/2010 06:22:36 PM 579 Views
Re: Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ... - 05/05/2010 12:22:09 AM 513 Views
But... - 05/05/2010 10:19:18 AM 463 Views
Re: But... - 05/05/2010 02:44:18 PM 477 Views
Lews Therin's funny Talent - 04/05/2010 06:34:26 PM 527 Views
Wards can detect people. - 05/05/2010 12:21:02 AM 489 Views
In hindsight - 05/05/2010 08:39:21 AM 478 Views
Re: In hindsight - 05/05/2010 12:20:36 PM 450 Views
Re: In hindsight - 05/05/2010 04:42:45 PM 458 Views
Re: Lews Therin's funny Talent - 05/05/2010 03:12:26 PM 519 Views
Unrealistic and unsympathetic for the most part - 05/05/2010 04:28:34 PM 473 Views

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